Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

As expected, the most upvoted comment on that NYT article is by a gloating Indian. They infest every corner of the internet. The remaining comments point out how the UAE Is wrong in doing this.

Right. Also, Indians are cornered and desperate and their line of attacks on Pakistan are like 'Pakistan sheltered Bin Laden' (False!), or the '1971 war', or 'Pakistan backstabbed USA in Afghanistan', or 'Pakistan funds global terrorism'. Etc. Etc.

And my own Comment to that article was:
"This was predictable because sectarianism is rampant in the Middle East. In case of Pakistan, despite some sectarian violence, the Shia community, which is only 20% of the population, plays a prominent role in Pakistan and many leaders have been Shia. UAE should be ashamed of itself for deporting the Pakistanis. Pakistan condemned the attacks by Iran on the UAE and also condemned the attacks on Iran by Israel and the UAE. What more could Pakistan do? PS. Sad to see Indians' even here can't appreciate the peacemaking effort by Pakistan to end this conflict."

 

[Meengla]

From my perspective, relations between Iran and Pakistan had a fundamental reset in June 2025, and have been improving ever since then.
There are still many issues to resolve and areas for growth, but the trajectory is very clear.

Right. The reset happened then and there is no going back. The more the Pakistanis feel they can sustain American financial pressures, the more the Pakistanis would align with Iran. But the American financial tools are enormous and only some fools here would advocate ignoring them. But then the expat Pakistanis in the West live in a bubble of their own. Who cares if 50 million more Pakistanis sink below the poverty line in a nation which is under an eight decade threat from a massive, rich, powerful country to its east and a 40 million 'nation' full of rented terrorists to its west.

 

[Meengla]

Israeli's reasoning for this war was getting rid of any ability of iran having nukes which means no enrichment and no possibility of enrichment. They will not stop till that is achieved otherwise it is a loss for US and Netanyahu, no backing down now
It was also to take over land in lebanon and degrade Hezbollah
Israel also wanted to get sth from syria and as i read somewhere there were close to hundreds of incursions into syrian territory. God alone knows how much land they have taken there since this war began.
And lastly it was to degrade gulf countries or get them fighting iran. Succeeded with UAE
This was a known fact since it began and it will remain so till the first point is accomplished. Now lets pray their plan does not succeed.
they plan and He plans and He is the best of planners

Good summary of the Israeli goals and Netanyahu will not give up until his goals are met and Netanyahu knows this is literally his/Israel last chance because no other US President would be a stooge like Trump has been.
But you forgot to add: The Iranian missiles. They are even more important for Israel then anything else. And I mean anything else. Why? Because Iran has a deterrence against Israel, otherwise Iran would be another lawn to be mowed periodically by Israel.

 

[Meengla]

Contrary to the delusional ramblings of grandpa MAGA, the JCPOA was not just a “Obama Deal.”

It was an agreement crafted by the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council, + Germany, and it was adopted via unanimous UN Security Council vote.

The EU also passed its own resolution backing it.

EVERYONE agreed it was a good deal.

Everyone that is EXCEPT ISRAEL.

So let’s be real clear on this, Trump didn’t blow up the JCPOA for any of our allies. He didn’t do it for us. He did it for Israel. Because they own him. Period.

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Right.
And yet so many lazy thinkers here couldn't see a Democratic Party American POTUS Mr. Obama spending 2.5 years of hard work to make the JCPOA possible against bitter Netanyahu opposition vs a Republican POTUS Mr. Trump who threw it out quickly after coming to office.
Facts speak for themselves and facts clearly show there is no comparison between the Republicans and the Democrats even if many Democrats maybe in AIPAC's pockets.

 

[Meengla]

He cancelled the Obama deal. Now he has to get something more than what Obama got, otherwise it makes him look weak, more worse than Obama. If he gets the same deal with all bases destroyed, it will make him look weak.
So we will have these going back and forth for God knows how long.

Yes but the bigger issue for Trump is how to get something better looking for him which would not involve dozens or even hundreds or even thousands of body bags coming home to America. That would destroy Trump and his supine Republican stooges in the Congress.
I think at this point, I don't rule out an offramp based on the ongoing diplomacy. The other options could be:
1) Two more weeks of intense attacks to further degrade Iran; that's Netanyahu's Minimal Viable Product (MVP), to use a business term.
2) A staged tit for tat like what happened at the end of the June 2025 conflict.

Both of them would allow Americans to declare 'victory' and leave but both would eventually be an Iranian 'victory' and the Israelis know that though the Israelis would take option #1 as best. But option #1 would risk significant American casualties and #2 is something Iranians might not agree with--though they should as long as the Americans leave!

 

[Meengla]

Honestly, the FPV drones that Hezbollah is using have done more damage to Israel in Lebanon then any of the ballistic rockets

Right. Also look at how effective those cheap FPV are against the Russians in the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war. Absolutely the best bang for the bucks.
Iran's problem is that it is too far from Israel. Remember what Trita Parsi said at the start of this war: Iran's 'First line of defense' were the proxies around Israel, which are now greatly diminished, and thus this attack on Iran happened. Geography matters!!

 

[GWXP]

This table shows how many ballistic missiles Iran launched during the war:


Around 1900 ballistic missiles in total and lets assume another 100 missiles had been hit by US and Israel and this means Iran exhausted around 2000 ballistic missiles during the 40 day war.

And now according to US intelligence Iran still has 70% of its pre-war ballistic missile arsenal.

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So, if 2000 ballistic missiles is 30% and Iran still has another 70% of its missile arsenal, this means Iran had 6600 ballistic missiles before the war and currently it has around 4600 ballistic missiles.

Also, Iran launched at least 6000 drones during the war and US says Iran still has 40% of its pre-war drone arsenal.

This means before the war Iran had 6600 ballistic missiles and 10.000 drones, and currently Iran has 4600 ballistic missiles and 4000 drones.

Iran should have an arsenal of 15.000 MRBMs and 30.000 drones

 

[ustaad]

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[r3alist]

Senior royal says Saudi Arabia avoided Israeli plan to 'plunge region into ruin'

Prince Turki al-Faisal wrote that had Israel succeeded, thousands of Saudis would have 'been lost in a battle in which we had no stake'

www.middleeasteye.net

This news development deserves its own thread I think

It seems to confirm that the Saudis were exercising strategic patience, Pakistan explicitly mentioned as being part of this understanding. Moreover, all of the narratives around invoking the defence pact had the intention to expand the war.

Also contradicting the narrative that the Saudis pushed for this war in fact it looks like the opposite.

 

[Persian Gulf]

This table shows how many ballistic missiles Iran launched during the war:
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Around 1900 ballistic missiles in total and lets assume another 100 missiles had been hit by US and Israel and this means Iran exhausted around 2000 ballistic missiles during the 40 day war.

And now according to US intelligence Iran still has 70% of its pre-war ballistic missile arsenal.

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So, if 2000 ballistic missiles is 30% and Iran still has another 70% of its missile arsenal, this means Iran had 6600 ballistic missiles before the war and currently it has around 4600 ballistic missiles.

Also, Iran launched at least 6000 drones during the war and US says Iran still has 40% of its pre-war drone arsenal.

This means before the war Iran had 6600 ballistic missiles and 10.000 drones, and currently Iran has 4600 ballistic missiles and 4000 drones.

Iran should have an arsenal of 15.000 MRBMs and 30.000 drones

I think the number is more like 500 for Israel rather than 650

In June 2025 it was ~600

And in Operations TP I and II a total of 300 missiles

So ~1400-1500 ballistic missiles fired at Israel since April 2024

 

[GWXP]

I think the number is more like 500 for Israel rather than 650

In June 2025 it was ~600

And in Operations TP I and II a total of 300 missiles

So ~1400-1500 ballistic missiles fired at Israel since April 2024

Iran produces 100 ballistic missiles per month or 1200 missiles that can reach Israel per year.

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Since Iran launched 2181 ballistic missiles (MRBMs and SRBMs) during the 40 Day War and CIA says Iran still has 70% of its pre-war arsenal, we can say that before the war Iran had more than 7200 ballistic missiles in total.

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Based on Israeli report from 20.02.2026 that says Iran produces 100 missiles per month (1200 missiles per year) and can have 5000 ballistic missiles that can reach Israel by 2027, we can estimate that out of these 7200 ballistic missiles 3800 missiles were MRBMs and 3400 missiles were SRBMs.

Israel racing to curb Iran missile surge, warns 'no airtight solution' to thousands of rockets

IDF officials estimate Iran could possess at least 5,000 ballistic missiles by 2027, producing about 100 per month, and say layered air defenses cannot fully prevent damage from sustained, large-scale barrages

www.ynetnews.com

During the 40 Day War Iran launched 2181 ballistic missiles of which 700 MRBMs at Israel and Jordan and 1481 SRBMs at Gulf countries.

So, currently Iran has 3100 MRBMs and 1919 SRBMs = 5019 ballistic missiles in total.

With this arsenal Iran can continue fighting for another 92 days.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Well I believe Israel is in ruins after the Iranian missile strikes.

 

[maxpane]

wise decision the whole region was on the brink of chaos

 

[hasssanali8998]

Pakistan and Iranian Foreign Ministers held Phone calls with Saudi Foreign Minister.

 

[Dark Knight]

Netanyahu will not give up until his goals are met

True, but then he will just move on to his next goal's/demands.

Just rinse and repeat with Benni, never staisfied.

America will do his/Israel's/The Zionist's bidding like always. A sick situation.