Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Persian Gulf said:
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Sky News press the US Admiral responsible for bombing the school in Minab and killing 120 school children.

"For how long can you hide behind 'an investigation is ongoing'? When will the investigation will conclude? Can you say anything to the families who died in Minab?"
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am surprised with Sky reporting this all day and unusually condeming Americans
 
KAL-EL said:
Again, if it's that easy why hasn't it been tried yet? I keep asking that question. Easy to say things behind a keyboard.

But I live in the rational world. You don't just nuke or dirty bomb a country in a vacuum. What language should I explain that in? Kryptonian perhaps?
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Israel's end will come. No state can forever keep doing the cycle of oppression and at a scale that Israel does. That ultra religious, maniac & genocidal state has done enough crimes already. Occupying another's land, throwing locals out of their homes, hitting refugee camps, killing journalists, committing a genocide and list goes on.

Nukes may not be needed at all. I know you live in a rational world. But if a state has made enough enemies against unforgivable crimes and has a tiny geography and on top the whole existence is based on injustice and oppression then its matter of time. They came via migration, they will leave via migration. Yes it does not look to be happening anytime soon. Maybe 25 years, 50 yrs at max?

The beginning of its demise has already started. 20 yrs ago, no one could dream to attack Israel with missiles or to US bases in the region. Look what happened to US bases in the region. The era of total domination and hegemony is already being challenged. Its a slow process but it has begun. China's rise is also a factor. A time will come when US won't be able to lift the weight of Israel all the time, it will have to focus its entire resources and energies towards its main rival.
 
KAL-EL said:
Some planes Lost in a war. Not surprising. But it barely makes a dent in the US arsenal it's equivalent to a little more than a pin prick.
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All those reports in CNN, Reuters and many more "American" media that US might be running out of critical arsenal that it needs against China. Tomahawks, SM-2s. SM-3s, Patriots, Thaads etc.

Your argument is valid only if you are considering Iran as a peer rival against the US. Point is Iran is not peer competitor. US is bleeding its critical resources that it could have used against primary & peer rival China. Its total demise of US stature, the conflict showed the limits of US hard power, In realistic terms this conflict has given the US a reality check. Its no more a sole super power of the world. Iran is not on its knees, Iran is not appointing a pro-US regime or Pro-US leader and cutting down on their missiles or drones or ending their proxies Or not even opening strait of hormuz. Iran is coming to negotiating table with its own terms. US has clearly FAILED to DEFEAT Iran. US has FAILED in its primary objectives to destroy Iran's missile capability and do the regime change. When an aggressor failed on its political objectives for war then its clear cut definition of war being lost. In simple words US has lost this war.
 
Watandar said:
That is where you are completely wrong. Learn a thing or two from Pearl Harbor and 9/11 please.

Or if you are not bothered by that, just look at the "rally to the flag" effect the US/Israeli attack on Iran has had on the nation.
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Attack on american homeland will result in ground invasion at the very least and a complete nuking of Iranian population centers at worst.
 
US options:

1) End war by agreeing to Iranian terms - seen as defeat

2) Resume hot war (bombing) to try to coerce Iran to accept US terms

3) Continue status quo (blockade) and hope economic pressure forces Iran to accept US terms

4) Unilaterally withdraw and claim victory without achieving political objectives or retrieving HEU
 
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SaadH said:
Attack on american homeland will result in ground invasion at the very least and a complete nuking of Iranian population centers at worst.
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People were saying this exact same thing before Ukraine struck Moscow

That Putin would launch teraton bombs on Kiev and wipe it off the map if they dared to attack Russia
 
Persian Gulf said:
US options:

1) End war by agreeing to Iranian terms - seen as defeat

2) Resume hot war (bombing) to try to coerce Iran to accept US terms

3) Continue status quo (blockade) and hope economic pressure forces Iran to accept US terms

4) Unilaterally withdraw and claim victory without achieving political objectives or retrieving HEU
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which one is the big bet?
 
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