Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

SaadH said:
Attack on american homeland will result in ground invasion at the very least and a complete nuking of Iranian population centers at worst.
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People were saying this exact same thing before Ukraine struck Moscow

That Putin would launch teraton bombs on Kiev and wipe it off the map if they dared to attack Russia
 
Persian Gulf said:
US options:

1) End war by agreeing to Iranian terms - seen as defeat

2) Resume hot war (bombing) to try to coerce Iran to accept US terms

3) Continue status quo (blockade) and hope economic pressure forces Iran to accept US terms

4) Unilaterally withdraw and claim victory without achieving political objectives or retrieving HEU
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which one is the big bet?
 
tsunset said:
People were saying this exact same thing before Ukraine struck Moscow

That Putin would launch teraton bombs on Kiev and wipe it off the map if they dared to attack Russia
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The psychopathic genocidal mania of Western Anglo-Saxon Christians is unmatched in history. No other people are responsible for as much death and destruction on earth as these people, even if you combine all atrocities committed by all other people.
 
And who is to blame for all of this at the end of the day? I wouldn't even blame the Americans for this. But the handlers and 'Epstein class' as they call them - they have a hand in it all as witnessed in the protocols.
 
Meengla said:
he biggest strategic defeat for America, should it happen, would be the greatly reduced American presence in the Middle East, thus leaving Israel on its own AND of the death of the Petro Dollar, which may well lead to USD losing its status as the Reserve Currency of the world, which would be a nightmare for the American geopolitical goals:
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The danger to the Petro Dollar, which would affect the great prosperity and affordability afforded to the Americans for decades can't be overstated. Remember that Trump openly threatened BRICS not long ago because BRICS was working to replace the USD as the Reserve Currency. That was such sour loser moment: What right a country has to dictate to other countries how they would trade with each other??

While this whole video is well worth watching, I am starting just the last 5 odd minutes relevant to my quoted post. BTW, Anthony is not some softie leftie--he is being careful but I have a feeling he wouldn't mind carpet bombing the whole Middle East. He looks like a Pentagon hack but I still respect his realism just like I respect John Bolton's realism.

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Pak-Warrior said:
But if a state has made enough enemies against unforgivable crimes and has a tiny geography and on top the whole existence is based on injustice and oppression then its matter of time. They came via migration, they will leave via migration. Yes it does not look to be happening anytime soon. Maybe 25 years, 50 yrs at max?
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Even India's Retired General Bakshi in a video today, after praising Israel for being India's long time friend, is compelled to say that by attacking Iran, Israel has 'Over Reached'.

IMO, Israel's biggest problem is that they are trying to duplicate the conquest of the Americans by the Europeans in North America but the demographics of the Middle East is the opposite: Too many locals, who are too 'modern', are too 'informed' , are increasingly too armed, and increasingly too united, and have become too hateful of Israel which is a puny, pampered, America-protected population of Israel. Such circumstances can't can't be helpful to Israel even in medium term. Israel definitely needs a course correction and this time they will have to concede more than what the PM Rabin did in the 90s or they are doomed.
 
Meengla said:
Even India's Retired General Bakshi in a video today, after praising Israel for being India's long time friend, is compelled to say that by attacking Iran, Israel has 'Over Reached'.

IMO, Israel's biggest problem is that they are trying to duplicate the conquest of the Americans by the Europeans in North America but the demographics of the Middle East is the opposite: Too many locals, who are too 'modern', are too 'informed' , are increasingly too armed, and increasingly too united, and have become too hateful of Israel which is a puny, pampered, America-protected population of Israel. Such circumstances can't can't be helpful to Israel even in medium term. Israel definitely needs a course correction and this time they will have to concede more than what the PM Rabin did in the 90s or they are doomed.
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They will start another war, most likely their last, after which they will be defeated and destroyed. They will be on the western side of the Jordan River, and crossing that river will bring about their downfall.
 
Hazard said:
This is why I say no one in the West takes China seriously. They're just after money, nothing else. Pakistanis get excited thinking China will come to their aid. Well they will...as much as they came to the aid of Iranians or any of their 'allies' - lip service basically.
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The west takes China seriously,but you don't, and that's ok, as long as you are aware of the difference.

If the west actually doesn't take China seriously, then they'll surely get a big surprise, many times the surprise they received earlier this year from Iran.
 
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