Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Sky News press the US Admiral responsible for bombing the school in Minab and killing 120 school children.

"For how long can you hide behind 'an investigation is ongoing'? When will the investigation will conclude? Can you say anything to the families who died in Minab?"
 
KAL-EL said:
What am I supposed to not stop exactly? I have no power over the USA military
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Neither Pentagon nor here.

You're the one telling that those looses are just a fraction of US military power.

So why to stop if they can finish the job?.
 
PakistanLVR said:
I've been reading the comments the few past days and need to say its unfair taking out the micro-aggression on the Chinese for not actively interfering in this conflict. They are helping in their capacity. The Chinese are single-handedly focused establishing full spectrum dominance so when the time comes to fight, they will fight. They will not take their eyes off the ball. I'm 60 now and old enough to remember Col. Qaddafi in the 19802, saying the the Islamic world giving the Chinese full support in their struggle with the West to which the Chinese politely decline any sort of confrontation.

The ones here wanting the Chinese to actively get involved, maybe your first priority should be that you get involved in your country of origins national politics to fix the issues there. Expecting outsiders to come and fight for you is not going to happened. Even in the 1% chance it does, the outsiders will have their own interests which will clash with yours. Just my two cents while reading the comments unfairly demanding the Chinese to step in. The Iranian leadership is fully confidence in what they are doing hence why they aren't seeking active participation from others. That's a matured nation and society.
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It would be counterproductive for China aswell, GCC lackies are already spreading propaganda that Iran Usa/Israeli war is between 2 evils, they even pointing fingers at Palestinians, Hizbollah, Houthis. People forget Syria had 30,000 troops in Lebanon to protect it from Israeli invasion and after a few decades Lebanese themselves (due to falling for fake propaganda) protested against Syrian troops and called them invaders, they left and after a few years Israel attacked S Lebanon, today the same Syria is finished off. The only thing China can do is make Iran the redline, Nato must be stopped at Iran or else they will enter central Asia, with nato will come ISIS and others since Nato is GCC ally, they work together for revolutions/rebellions as proven in Libya Syria etc.
 
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Sky News press the US Admiral responsible for bombing the school in Minab and killing 120 school children.

"For how long can you hide behind 'an investigation is ongoing'? When will the investigation will conclude? Can you say anything to the families who died in Minab?"
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am surprised with Sky reporting this all day and unusually condeming Americans
 
KAL-EL said:
Again, if it's that easy why hasn't it been tried yet? I keep asking that question. Easy to say things behind a keyboard.

But I live in the rational world. You don't just nuke or dirty bomb a country in a vacuum. What language should I explain that in? Kryptonian perhaps?
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Israel's end will come. No state can forever keep doing the cycle of oppression and at a scale that Israel does. That ultra religious, maniac & genocidal state has done enough crimes already. Occupying another's land, throwing locals out of their homes, hitting refugee camps, killing journalists, committing a genocide and list goes on.

Nukes may not be needed at all. I know you live in a rational world. But if a state has made enough enemies against unforgivable crimes and has a tiny geography and on top the whole existence is based on injustice and oppression then its matter of time. They came via migration, they will leave via migration. Yes it does not look to be happening anytime soon. Maybe 25 years, 50 yrs at max?

The beginning of its demise has already started. 20 yrs ago, no one could dream to attack Israel with missiles or to US bases in the region. Look what happened to US bases in the region. The era of total domination and hegemony is already being challenged. Its a slow process but it has begun. China's rise is also a factor. A time will come when US won't be able to lift the weight of Israel all the time, it will have to focus its entire resources and energies towards its main rival.
 
KAL-EL said:
Some planes Lost in a war. Not surprising. But it barely makes a dent in the US arsenal it's equivalent to a little more than a pin prick.
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All those reports in CNN, Reuters and many more "American" media that US might be running out of critical arsenal that it needs against China. Tomahawks, SM-2s. SM-3s, Patriots, Thaads etc.

Your argument is valid only if you are considering Iran as a peer rival against the US. Point is Iran is not peer competitor. US is bleeding its critical resources that it could have used against primary & peer rival China. Its total demise of US stature, the conflict showed the limits of US hard power, In realistic terms this conflict has given the US a reality check. Its no more a sole super power of the world. Iran is not on its knees, Iran is not appointing a pro-US regime or Pro-US leader and cutting down on their missiles or drones or ending their proxies Or not even opening strait of hormuz. Iran is coming to negotiating table with its own terms. US has clearly FAILED to DEFEAT Iran. US has FAILED in its primary objectives to destroy Iran's missile capability and do the regime change. When an aggressor failed on its political objectives for war then its clear cut definition of war being lost. In simple words US has lost this war.
 
Watandar said:
That is where you are completely wrong. Learn a thing or two from Pearl Harbor and 9/11 please.

Or if you are not bothered by that, just look at the "rally to the flag" effect the US/Israeli attack on Iran has had on the nation.
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Attack on american homeland will result in ground invasion at the very least and a complete nuking of Iranian population centers at worst.
 
US options:

1) End war by agreeing to Iranian terms - seen as defeat

2) Resume hot war (bombing) to try to coerce Iran to accept US terms

3) Continue status quo (blockade) and hope economic pressure forces Iran to accept US terms

4) Unilaterally withdraw and claim victory without achieving political objectives or retrieving HEU
 
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