Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

Well personally I'm against the war so I'm not playing cards with the Pentagon anytime soon.

Still doesn't change the fact that those losses were little more than a pin prick in the USA arsenal. Obviously no one wants any losses, but that's unrealistic in war

US losses were not little when compared to-

1. The amount of time the losses were occured over- just 40 days!
2. The enemy that caused those losses- Iran! apparently a mid tier power(portends a much bigger loss against bigger powers). This means without Ukraine war, Russia would knock US out(eventually) in a 1 on 1.

You are in denial about the loss US just took, I just hope you don't have that stubborn type of denial many Americans have.

 

[KAL-EL]

US losses were not little when compared to-

1. The mmount of time the losses were occured over- just 40 days!
2. The enemy that caused those losses- Iran! apparently a mid tier power(portends a much bigger loss against bigger powers). This means without Ukraine war, Russia would knock US out(eventually) in a 1 on 1.

You are in denial about the loss US just took, I just hope you don't have that stubborn type of denial many Americans have.

Sorry but we're going to have to disagree on this one. US suffered some losses but they are not more than a pinprick compared to the massive arsenal it has.

And in actuality many Americans are against this war including myself. Doesn't mean I'm going to dilute the truth any.

May the force be with you

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The truth is he probably doesn't care about his son much and doesn't like weddings

He's had a few of his own.

 

[Aryan_B]

RSAF isn't PAF or It'd have been a short work for them. Thats why they had to call the big boys.

This specualtion is unnecessary. Pakistani leaders will not take sides

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

US losses were not little when compared to-

1. The amount of time the losses were occured over- just 40 days!
2. The enemy that caused those losses- Iran! apparently a mid tier power(portends a much bigger loss against bigger powers). This means without Ukraine war, Russia would knock US out(eventually) in a 1 on 1.

You are in denial about the loss US just took, I just hope you don't have that stubborn type of denial many Americans have.

If you wish to discuss losses, I will gladly start a separate thread.

 

[Desert]

Sorry but we're going to have to disagree on this one. US suffered some losses but they are not more than a pinprick compared to the massive arsenal it has.

Tell that to the U.S citizens who cry day and night about gas and diesel prices.
one more hit (closing suez canal) and we probably gonna witness unrest and high crime rate in U.S

 

[Flotilla]

Well personally I'm against the war so I'm not playing cards with the Pentagon anytime soon.

Still doesn't change the fact that those losses were little more than a pin prick in the USA arsenal. Obviously no one wants any losses, but that's unrealistic in war

How many days have lasted Irán war?, 35 days, 39?.

How many aircrafts would be shoot down with another 2 months? And after a campaign like Irak war?.

Maybe US and Israel can erode Iranian SAM systems... But unlike Irak or Yugoslavia war, there are an unwilling support of China and Russia and complete oposition of Europeans allies in this war.

This change the equation. Israel and US are fighting out of home against 3 power militaries, China, Russia and Irán respectively.

Stop playing and hidding the true.

US doesn't continue because this war is Lost from the day one, when they went alone to fight nearly all Asia.

 

[925boy]

I agree with your point of view. The main task of Pakistan's troops stationed in Saudi Arabia is to protect Saudi Arabia.

According to the military agreement signed by the two countries, Pakistan provides Saudi Arabia with comprehensive defense commitments. The credibility of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia is trustworthy.

I agree with both of you on one condition - if the war starts again,and Iran attacks Saudia because it's allowing US troops to use it's bases to attack Iran, and Pakistan troops die in those Iranian attacks on Saudi arabia, Pakistan cannot complain to or get angry with Iran!

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Tell that to the U.S citizens who cry day and night about gas and diesel prices.
one more hit (closing suez canal) and we probably gonna witness unrest and high crime rate in U.S

Looking forward to it. I have some leftover anger issues. Please come riot in my neighborhood.

 

[Flotilla]

If you wish to discuss losses, I will gladly start a separate thread.

Do It. You don't need to open a tread, this is the correct place to discuss It.

The question is, how fast can replace Irán SAM systems against US/Israel aircrafts?.

 

[KAL-EL]

How many days have lasted Irán war?, 35 days, 39?.

How many aircrafts would be shoot down with another 2 months? And after a campaign like Irak war?.

Maybe US and Israel can erode Iranian SAM systems... But unlike Irak or Yugoslavia war, there are an unwilling support of China and Russia and complete oposition of Europeans allies in this war.

This change the equation. Israel and US are fighting out of home against 3 power militaries, China, Russia and Irán respectively.

Stop playing and hidding the true.

US doesn't continue because this war is Lost from the day one, when they went alone to fight nearly all Asia.

I'll just repeat myself one more time. This has nothing to do with the US losing strategically. It was in fact little more than a pin prick compared to the massive Air Force arsenal and other things the US has.

I'm not going to dwell on what the future losses might be because I'm not a fortune teller

There is no truth to hide here regarding this specific thing. No sense in continuing because we're going around and around in circles

 

[Desert]

Looking forward to it. I have some leftover anger issues. Please come riot in my neighborhood.

Why would I need to riot in ur area? I feel safe in Egypt.
no need to go to U.S where gas and diesel prices are high and skyrocketing and crime rate is high.

 

[KAL-EL]

Tell that to the U.S citizens who cry day and night about gas and diesel prices.
one more hit (closing suez canal) and we probably gonna witness unrest and high crime rate in U.S

Well one thing really has nothing to do with the other. Obviously US citizens are suffering with high costs etc etc

That's completely separate from US aircraft losses

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Do It. You don't need to open a tread, this is the correct place to discuss It.

The question is, how fast can replace Irán SAM systems against US/Israel aircrafts?.

It depends on how fast China and Russia deliver the systems. I've not been tracking any flights of late but I'm no fool either.

Indigenous systems depend on how quickly Iran has been able to resume production. There are others here who believe Iran has no capability based on the PowerPoints and Tweeter posts they subscribe to.

In short, US military brass are reporting on what they can confirm. How much is out there still that we don't know about?

Knowing that prior to the current ceasefire, the Israelis were conducting air strikes as close as 35 clicks of the Pak border, that tells me not everything is defended. Has that changed in the last 6 weeks?

Then there is still the matter of the SoH. Iran may just say "eff it" and sink a tanker or two.

 

[SteppeWolff]

This specualtion is unnecessary. Pakistani leaders will not take sides

Tell that to the Iranian and other members of our forum who want to see Pakistan as an adversary, despite Pakistan doing its maximum to help achieve cessation of hostilities in our region.

Pakistan will not take sides but Pakistan will not renegade on its commitments too.

Just like Iran is free to work with India and woo them, Pakistan is free to work with its treaty ally KSA too.