Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Desert]

Well one thing really has nothing to do with the other. Obviously US citizens are suffering with high costs etc etc

That's completely separate from US aircraft losses

I'm talking about the losses overall .. same happened in 1973 when Arabs did boycott sending oil to U.S and Europe.
same thing repeats again. obviously U.S has superior military yet there is always something that can hurt the U.S which is oil and inflation that was a successful move in 1973 and history repeats itself again in 2026.

good luck when we close suez canal too.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Why would I need to riot in ur area? I feel safe in Egypt.
no need to go to U.S where gas and diesel prices are high and skyrocketing and crime rate is high.

My area is actually very quiet. Good ol' boys and vets surround me.

Now down in PHX, I can take you to a couple of 'hoods if you're feeling sporty.

 

[Desert]

Just like Iran is free to work with India and woo them, Pakistan is free to work with its treaty ally KSA too.

That's fair to be honest but things need to change now , Pakistan and Iran should stop taking sides against each others and try to solve everything.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Election years, especially now where the US is in the primary season, make for an interesting dynamic.

Fortunately, the Democrats still cling to the far left crazy train.

 

[Desert]

My area is actually very quiet. Good ol' boys and vets surround me.

Now down in PHX, I can take you to a couple of 'hoods if you're feeling sporty.

Hahaha!
how nice of you but you don't me well , a middle eastern guy who lives in desert and able to live on water and dates only .. so ya.

anyway focus on thread and don't change the discussion.

 

[KAL-EL]

I'm talking about the losses overall .. same happened in 1973 when Arabs did boycott sending oil to U.S and Europe.
same thing repeats again. obviously U.S has superior military yet there is always something that can hurt the U.S which is oil and inflation that was a successful move in 1973 and history repeats itself again in 2026.

good luck when we close suez canal too.

Lets see it get closed first. You can predict all you want until it happens.

Until then I wouldn't hold my breath

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

That's fair to be honest but things need to change now , Pakistan and Iran should stop taking sides against each others and try to solve everything.

Field Marshal Munir might disagree with you.

 

[Desert]

Lets see it get closed first. You can predict all you want until it happens.

Until then I wouldn't hold my breath

Alright . .

 

[lightning f57]

If hostilities do re-start, it wont be Iran starting it so one must wonder what would the US goal be?

What would they want to achieve that they couldnt in 40+ days of war?

If its to bomb around the SOH to reduce any drone/missile attacks then all it takes is one drone to hit a tanker to stop the ships from moving. Regime change was a failure so cant see a new attack proceeding.

The only logical conclusion I come up with is the attack would be to cripple Iran economically for many years by destroying key critical infrastructure but then the gulfies will likely lose key infra as well.

So I really dont see what military action will achieve.

 

[SteppeWolff]

That's fair to be honest but things need to change now , Pakistan and Iran should stop taking sides against each others and try to solve everything.

Agreed. Geography cannot be changed, and Iran and Pakistan will always remain neighbours. Better to work with each other than against each other.

 

[925boy]

Saudi Arabia is vital for the Muslim world and Middle East

It can't be attacked, not because it hasn't made stupid decisions in the past including the recent past, because the only way to protect the region is to pull the major states out of the western Zionist orbit

Israeli vampire behavior and control of the West and U.S has led them to make a major strategic mistake, it's now vital Iran and other countries take advantage and plan for a new middle east

This means Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi, Egypt, Indonesia and multiple other smaller countries working together

UAE is a real den of snakes and deserves punishment, so does Bahrain and lesser extent Kuwait and Qatar but Saudi is a bigger state and Iranian miscalculation will just lead to eternal enmity


This is where diplomacy between states is vital now

First of all, I enjoy reading your posts.

But I have to disagree with you in the whole "Saudi should not be attacked by Iran because it's vital for Islam and middle East" narrative.

This recent war proved that-
1. Saudi Arabia isn't a worthy leader of the the Sunni Islam order, even though there is no better leader available to take over from the Saudia

2. Saudi Arabia (including its military) is a BIG- FOR -NOTHING useless force, Iran beat them up , as Saudia deserved and earned, and nobody could do anything about it, which is ok, because we are in the era of "might is right".

In short- since islam's global leadership is disoriented and lost, Iran had every right to take control of the Islamic order and structure in the world, because no other country comes close to deserving the leadership and actually serving the Islamic world. I respect Islam and do not want to say anything insensitive about it, but Sunni Islam today is in BAD SHAPE.

 

[Meengla]

Tell that to the Iranian and other members of our forum who want to see Pakistan as an adversary, despite Pakistan doing its maximum to help achieve cessation of hostilities in our region.
Pakistan will not take sides but Pakistan will not renegade on its commitments too.
Just like Iran is free to work with India and woo them, Pakistan is free to work with its treaty ally KSA too.

It is best not to put too much weight into what some PDF members here say. What is important is what the official Iranian position says.

As far as I can tell, Pakistan has worked really, really, really hard to not allow the Saudis to react against Iran; some attacks on KSA happened and some were attributed to Israel's False Flag. And from media reports, the Saudis and the Iranian foreign ministers have spoken with each other; that's not a hostile relationship. I think the extent of Pakistan's help maybe blocking Iranian missiles on some critical Saudi infra and that will be it. I don't see Iranians doing that. Israelis might as False Flag.

BTW, any Pakistani presence in Saudi Arabia should be a major threat to Israel above any other country. The presence could grow larger and move westward. But it is all speculative at this point. At the least such westward movement should put some brakes on the Israeli help to India.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[KAL-EL]

I guess it all depends on how much pizza is being ordered at the Pentagon