Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[东风夜放花千树]

A logical take. I would add that it is perfectly reasonable for Pakistan to exert its influence in this way, and moreover, it is also partly an inevitable reaction to Delhi's hostile manoeuvring in the region over a few decades now. Pakistan was going to demonstrate its strength here sooner or later.

Rather than any party taking some form of affront to this, it is far more mutually beneficial for Saudis, Iranians and others to forge a path forwards alongside Pakistan. Iran's leaders certainly are very receptive and cordial towards Pakistan's representatives. That level of trust must have been genuinely earned somewhere along the way.

I agree with your point of view.

Because the United States and Israel have repeatedly attacked their opponents unexpectedly during negotiations, there is serious distrust between the United States and Iran. They need a country that both sides trust to act as a mediator.

This country can only be Pakistan.

 

[925boy]

BBC News 24 - Donald Trump will not attend his sons wedding but remain in Washington this weekend.

Trump says he will miss son’s wedding to stay in DC during ‘important time’

US president previously said he would ‘try and make’ Donald Trump Jr’s nuptials but timing is ‘not good’ for him

www.theguardian.com

Trump Won’t Attend Don Jr.’s Wedding Over ‘Circumstances Pertaining To Government’

The president had suggested Thursday he may not attend the wedding because of “Iran and other things.”

www.forbes.com

This to me is one of the strongest indications that US is actually planning some sort of military operation, likely against Iran, but slight chance it's another country.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[925boy]

Sorry but we're going to have to disagree on this one. US suffered some losses but they are not more than a pinprick compared to the massive arsenal it has.

And in actuality many Americans are against this war including myself. Doesn't mean I'm going to dilute the truth any.

May the force be with you

Thanks for indirectly accepting you couldnt counter my point.

Wtf is an "I'm sorry I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one"? That sounds like you can't counter my point but you still want to look right.

US lost round 1 vs iran- that is the hard fact buddy. Nothing will change that and that bad performance has set US up to have further dissapointment of it continues it's strikes against Iran. I'm just being realistic and objective.

 

[925boy]

I'll just repeat myself one more time. This has nothing to do with the US losing strategically. It was in fact little more than a pin prick compared to the massive Air Force arsenal and other things the US has.

I'm not going to dwell on what the future losses might be because I'm not a fortune teller

There is no truth to hide here regarding this specific thing. No sense in continuing because we're going around and around in circles

Ok, the US's losses of military aircraft might've been a "pin prick",but the ammunition losses US incurred in this short clash almost emptied the reserves of the US army, which is a disaster and is why US lost its stamina to fight in just a little over a month- a super power only in propaganda. US army went full coward on Iran, unbelievable!

 

[925boy]

Attack is near!!!

If it "fails", Iranwill also expand it's influence and geography further,similar to what Israel is doing in its neighborhood- Iran might take territory from some gulf countries or neighbors...just saying ..SOH was step 1 in Iranian expansion..every country using their military power successfully is expanding regionally, even Azerbaijan took land from Armenia some years ago. Iran has the land forces for expansion. Iran might target parts of northern Iraq....not sure tbh.

 

[925boy]

Well that's something different. I was just merely pointing out that The US didn't suffer any very noticeable losses

Everything else you get into I never mentioned at all. It was purely assets. Nothing more, nothing less.

Ok, it seems your logic of conflicts is based on loss of ewuipment- "US didn't lose much equipment against Iran, so it didn't lose the war"..lmao- US lost round 1, fair and square. Iran seriously embarrassed US and most Americans know that, and for sure US senate and govt know that. They're not angry about the war in the halls of power for nothing. US probably will attemot round 2 of ear to reverse the 1st round loss, but like a bad gambler, it'll just get worse. US is now the drunk, broke, unfocused former super power. Respectfully!

 

[KAL-EL]

Ok, it seems your logic of conflicts is based on loss of ewuipment- "US didn't lose much equipment against Iran, so it didn't lose the war"..lmao- US lost round 1, fair and square. Iran seriously embarrassed US and most Americans know that, and for sure US senate and govt know that. They're not angry about the war in the halls of power for nothing. US probably will attemot round 2 of ear to reverse the 1st round loss, but like a bad gambler, it'll just get worse. US is now the drunk, broke, unfocused former super power. Respectfully!

If you had read any of my other posts you would have seen me say the US did not achieve its strategic goals.

I simply stated a fact and that fact is the US did not lose many assets. That is a fact. I didn't state anymore or any less.

 

[KAL-EL]

Thanks for indirectly accepting you couldnt counter my point.

Wtf is an "I'm sorry I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one"? That sounds like you can't counter my point but you still want to look right.

US lost round 1 vs iran- that is the hard fact buddy. Nothing will change that and that bad performance has set US up to have further dissapointment of it continues it's strikes against Iran. I'm just being realistic and objective.

I wasn't indirectly admitting anything. That's what you perceive...

You're realistic and objective? If I'm being honest bro you seem to have an extreme bias against USA. And hey, that's okay but you're hardly being realistic and objective on some things at least.

USA did not meet its strategic goals I never argued otherwise

Kind of useless to keep going around and around

 

[Magi]

Iran might target parts of northern Iraq....not sure tbh.

This is on the mark. KRG has been strongly mentioned by Iranian decision makers in Persian language media. Then to a lesser extent Ras al Khaimah and "coastal regions of UAE". KRG seems most likely logistically and Iran has been softening up the Kurdish militias. There also exist Iran oriented Kurdish entities in the KRG area. Turkey may take exception to this. They have not yet taken an overtly belligerent action like sending F16s and troops to Qatar. We will see.

 

[925boy]

If you had read any of my other posts you would have seen me say the US did not achieve its strategic goals.

I simply stated a fact and that fact is the US did not lose many assets. That is a fact. I didn't state anymore or any less.

I get your point, but your point is not relevant to anything important, so why focus on it?to make us think IS didn't lose? It's like a red herring distraction type argument. I'm over it, so pls focus on my relevant and interesting aspects of the most embarrassing esr US has entered in modern times. Cheers.

And bye, US is too broke to enter ears against countries with good militaries, but it can still chase Isis across the globe to make us think Isis is not it's "child" or "relative".

 

[925boy]

This is on the mark. KRG has been strongly mentioned by Iranian decision makers in Persian language media. Then to a lesser extent Ras al Khaimah and "coastal regions of UAE". KRG seems most likely logistically and Iran has been softening up the Kurdish militias. There also exist Iran oriented Kurdish entities in the KRG area. Turkey may take exception to this. They have not yet taken an overtly belligerent action like sending F16s and troops to Qatar. We will see.

Very interesting and thanks for sharing. If and when Iranian troops move into northern Iraq, Turkish troops won't dare to move close to them or attack them, for one because US's regional failures would have sucked turkey dry of any new momentum or initiative in its region(i think). look at Syria - hasn't exactly turned it into a functional modern country.
Plus turkeys currency is dead, so many wrong move or costly conflict will lead to Turks overrunning their govt.

 

[Shags101]

Trump reportedly moving toward ordering strikes on Iran but no final decision made

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www.timesofisrael.com

Honestly this back and forth thing is giving me a headache I only believe the risk of war is great because I don’t see trump passing on making inappropriate moves on his juniors guests(assuming just the women)if war does erupt i can see him doing it in Memorial Day to try to make it a “patriotic” event to rally his extreme base but by now I don’t know what the hell is going on anymore I honestly don’t think trump knows what’s going on anymore……………it’s painful to say but I would take Sleepy Joe back over the Orange Clown whose about to take us the abyss if not with Iran than next international fiasco to domestic issues

 

[Abdul q]

I guess it all depends on how much pizza is being ordered at the Pentagon

From our ex chief’s Papa john’s

 

[Fatman17]