Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Wars aren’t really unpredictable.

Especially in modern times.


Please feel free to predict as much as you like. I will wait and see the results - the ones that actually happen in real life - before opining.

Even in modern warfare, not all of the events are predictable, and neither are their effects on the conduct of the war.

Maybe Trump will have a stroke, or Israel will get a lucky shot at the new Rahber. Or any number of other equally unpredictable factors may influence the conduct of the war by both sides.

Who knows? Do you?
 
I suspect Trump is delaying war until the US has precise intelligence on the locations of top Iranian military leaders (particularly Ali Abdollahi and Majid Mousavi) and an opportunity arises to target them.
No. Orangeman is delaying war until the World Cup and US 250th 4th of July celebration is over. US ISR knows where IRGC leadership is. After the 4th of July Orangeman is going to unleash on Iran unless IRGC agrees with Orangeman's terms which they will not and Orangeman hopes they don't.

If I were IRGC knowing that we're not giving up our enriched uranium I'd strike first after the 4th of July with whatever is left before US and Israel launch another massive strike. Go out with a bang.
 
Cannot happen though, Israel is Usa outpost in the middleeast, they will protect them economically and militarily, in another words Usa will not leave until Israeli exists, and no doubt Israel has its own agenda, to expand territory, to keep neighbours in flame or under their thumb, and keep their militaries in check.
Oh bhai this Irani war has certainly not gone on the script at all.

Every man n his dog got exposed as phuss basically.

Most elders now openly blurt out that we are in uncharted waters.

Iran was supposed to have collapsed long ago like all them other 'do do rupay k muzlim mumalik'

That just didn't happen and most likely will not happen.

So what do we do now?
 
No. Orangeman is delaying war until the World Cup and US 250th 4th of July celebration is over. US ISR knows where IRGC leadership is. After the 4th of July Orangeman is going to unleash on Iran unless IRGC agrees with Orangeman's terms which they will not and Orangeman hopes they don't.

If I were IRGC knowing that we're not giving up our enriched uranium I'd strike first after the 4th of July with whatever is left before US and Israel launch another massive strike. Go out with a bang.
not true, if they knew where Abdollahi, Mousavi, and Vahidi were they would have killed them by now.

the US struck in daylight because that was a good opportunity to target Khamenei and senior military leaders.

they wait for the right moment to strike. and it is not yet the right moment.
 
not true, if they knew where Abdollahi, Mousavi, and Vahidi were they would have killed them by now.

the US struck in daylight because that was a good opportunity to target Khamenei and senior military leaders.

they wait for the right moment to strike. and it is not yet the right moment.
Also its smeltering hot in the summer months, if they attack they cant commit ground forces unless they want the weather to turn them into human kebabs, add to the fact they are low in precision strike weapons and interceptors.

To me its looking like trump may be settling for a low intensity conflict probably until after the mid-terms. But by then the US economy would likely be cooked as well so trump wants the SOH open.
 
No. Orangeman is delaying war until the World Cup and US 250th 4th of July celebration is over. US ISR knows where IRGC leadership is. After the 4th of July Orangeman is going to unleash on Iran unless IRGC agrees with Orangeman's terms which they will not and Orangeman hopes they don't.

If I were IRGC knowing that we're not giving up our enriched uranium I'd strike first after the 4th of July with whatever is left before US and Israel launch another massive strike. Go out with a bang.
There are credible reports saying Irán is just right now restarting to produce ballistic missiles (I suspect they retained some capability of producing under earth liquid ballistic missiles). How many of them would eventually been restock after more than a month?.
Even if they don't produce no one, if they regain access to buried stocks, they can be during months crippling not only US bases but also marítime traffic shipping lanes.
So, ok. If your Majesty King Orange I wants to have a good 4 of July, just take cover.
 
No. Orangeman is delaying war until the World Cup and US 250th 4th of July celebration is over. US ISR knows where IRGC leadership is. After the 4th of July Orangeman is going to unleash on Iran unless IRGC agrees with Orangeman's terms which they will not and Orangeman hopes they don't.

If I were IRGC knowing that we're not giving up our enriched uranium I'd strike first after the 4th of July with whatever is left before US and Israel launch another massive strike. Go out with a bang.
When this doesn't happen you will move on to an "October surprise" before the election.
 
Netanyahu wants to expand the Israeli territories. That's his bottom line in any conflict with its neighbors. Already acquired new Syrian territories three times the size of Gaza, wants to control 70% of Gaza, and wants to acquire the Lebanese land up to the Litani River. All those three land acquisition would be gobbled up, like the West Bank being gobbled up, in the name of Israel's 'security'.
In the Israeli discourse, I rarely notice the mention of Israel's 'borders' because to them that is an expanding abstraction. Only Iran stands in Israel's way. It is a shame that a chunk of the Syrians and the Lebanese are content to lose strategic, fertile land for short term peace. If it were Pakistan's land, you'd see the response. Heck, Pakistan is fighting with a mighty power like India for four decades over and on a sliver of land 20,000+ ft in Siachen Glacier.

Israel is determined to expand it's territory based upon some religious mumbo jumbo

All the countries around it need to prepare

Hezbollah are the only near threat, and for all the pain that is Inflicted on them, their defence of Lebanon is truly admirable


As long as the FPV drones keep flying then Israel creating any buffer/security zone is near impossible,
It's vital they are pushed back into Israel

Syria has a blue print to target the Israelis occupation of their land, Syria and Turkey are currently preparing and they should be looking at what's happening in South Lebanon and realise how vulnerable Israel forces are



Their is no great Israeli forces in south Syria, their biggest weapon is the IAF which will target any advancing Syrian force or group

So FPV drones being used to target Israeli forces is the perfect weapon to harass them and their equipment



Syria should make up a fake militia or group, and have them use FPV drones to start targeting Israeli forces with the Syrian government remaining quite and having plausible deniability
 

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