Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[OldTwilight]

Of course they don't. But this member like some other members here seem to live in a video game mentality.

Probably I know more than you guys ... but you guys try to over complicated things , with nucleare deterance , they probably won't even dare to wage conventional war against us in first place ...

 

[unconventional]

I think TP4 was rather focused on neighboring countries than Israel itself, which was a wise move at the time, but this time Iran needs to focus on Israel more than anybody else.

If Iran doesn't teach Israel a lesson, Israel will go against Iran solo next times, effectively denying Iran the excuse to respond to the US or Arab states near us. The US will continue to enforce a blockade on Iran, while Arabs will be just innocent bystanders unlike the last time.

Iran has not been able/or tried to hit critical Israeli infrastructure as of now. It will be a first if they manage to do that, and a dramatic escalation to the war. They have not done this to Israel yet, and Israel and the US has been able to target key Iranian infrastructure before.

It will be very difficult to do so. The strategists in Iran should have planned on how to maximize their missile impacts in Israel.

Iran should not be concerned about escalation at this point. Escalation actually does not disadvantage Iran in my opinion. But they really need to think/be concerned about how they plan on re-establishing deterrence by successfully hitting key Israeli infrastructure.

That is what I was interested in hearing from you and other Iranian posters, more than a surface level assessment/wishlist and a more detailed analysis.

 

[mangekyo]

Why? Lebanon is fighting Israel on our behalf. Weird counter-example.

Hezbollah is, not the Lebanese zio government

 

[ShapurII]

Hezbollah is, not the Lebanese zio government

Yes, but at least Hezbollah is fighting on our behalf on the ground. The same is not true about PMU forces in Iraq. They were one of the most passive and ineffective forces throughout the war.

Not to mention that parasites like Muqtada Sadr who leeched off Iran for years have openly called for disarming resistance groups in Iraq.

Besides that, Lebanon did not host forward bases of Israel. Iraq did. Also, Lebanon is not gaining billions of dollars from the Iran war while getting toll exemption for passing through the Strait of Hormuz.

 

[unconventional]

It would be a huge mistake for Iran to target Gulf energy infrastructure right now. As things stand, the focus is squarely on Israeli aggression, but striking regional neighbors like KSA would completely isolate Tehran. An attack on KSA would also force Pakistan to instantly drop its role as a neutral mediator and give full support to Riyadh. If Iran wants to hurt Netanyahu's government without triggering a major regional blowback, targeting Israel's own energy infrastructure is the only logical move.

Maybe not the KSA, but they can definitely go after the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait; and make the region and world economy suffer. They can persuade the Houthis to close Bab Al Mandab and further hurt the region. These are low-hanging fruits in my opinion and easier to do.

These steps will really hurt the region, the US and the world economy; but they won’t deter Israel.

To deter Israel, they need to have significant impacts on key Israeli infrastructure. They need to focus on achieving something they haven’t achieved yet.

 

[OldTwilight]

Yes, but at least Hezbollah is fighting on our behalf on the ground. The same is not true about PMU forces in Iraq. They were one of the most passive and ineffective forces throughout the war.

Not to mention that parasites like Muqtada Sadr who leeched off Iran for years have openly called for disarming resistance groups in Iraq.

Besides that, Lebanon did not host forward bases of Israel. Iraq did. Also, Lebanon is not gaining billions of dollars from the Iran war while getting toll exemption for passing through the Strait of Hormuz.

Hezbollah is fighting for its own survival ... they are not our proxy .

 

[mangekyo]

Yes, but at least Hezbollah is fighting on our behalf on the ground. The same is not true about PMU forces in Iraq. They were one of the most passive and ineffective forces throughout the war.

Not to mention that parasites like Muqtada Sadr who leeched off Iran for years have openly called for disarming resistance groups in Iraq.

I like Hezbollah, but how are they fighting on our behalf? The Israelis attacked and occupied them, and they are simply defending themselves. Thats like saying PMU fought ISIS on our behalf. All our «allies» suck.

 

[ShapurII]

I like Hezbollah, but how are they fighting on our behalf? The Israelis attacked and occupied them, and they are simply defending themselves. Thats like saying PMU fought ISIS on our behalf. All our «allies» suck.

They started to fire rockets into Israel when the US and Israel attacked Iran on February 28th. Before that, they had a half-functioning peace deal with Israel that even though Israel didn't fully honor it, but at least the Israeli forces weren't aggressively occupying more Lebanese territory every week while killing 300 civilians on a single day.

I agree that all of our allies suck, but at least Hezbollah stood with us when we were going down. I would say the Houthis of Yemen disappointed me the most. I expected a lot more from them.

 

[OldTwilight]

They started to fire rockets into Israel when the US and Israel attacked Iran on February 28th. Before that, they had a half-functioning peace deal with Israel that even though Israel didn't fully honor it, but at least the Israeli forces weren't aggressively occupying more Lebanese territory every week while killing 300 civilians on a single day.

I agree that all of our allies suck, but at least Hezbollah stood with us when we were going down. I would say the Houthis of Yemen disappointed me the most. I expected a lot more from them.

Israel was killing them in mass , they knew if Iran falls , they are next .

 

[ShapurII]

Israel was killing them in mass , they knew if Iran falls , they are next .

The Houthis of Yemen will fall without Iran too but that didn't stop them from saying they will abide by their ceasefire terms with the US

If you think the Houthis of Yemen can stay relevant without Iran, then think twice.

Like it or not, Hezbollah got dragged into this mess because it stood with us when Iran was going down. They could've done the same as the Houthis of Yemen.

 

[OldTwilight]

The Houthis of Yemen will fall without Iran too but that didn't stop them from saying they will abide by their ceasefire terms with the US

If you think the Houthis of Yemen can stay relevant without Iran, then think twice.

Like it or not, Hezbollah got dragged into this mess because it stood with us when Iran was going down. They could've done the same as the Houthis of Yemen.

USA wasnt going to attack them ...

 

[ShapurII]

USA wasnt going to attack them ...

Probably, but eventually after Iran falls, Saudi Arabia will finish them off.
The Houthis of Yemen were a bunch of shoeless rag-tag militias with AK-47s before Iran's military support. And they seem to have forgotten that.

 

[KAL-EL]

Probably I know more than you guys ... but you guys try to over complicated things , with nucleare deterance , they probably won't even dare to wage conventional war against us in first place ...

Yes yes.. sure you do. It's your world, we're just living in it.

 

[Lulldapull]

An air base is not like some football field that you can destroy with a couple of successful hits. Iran can throw everything it has on the US military air fields in nearby countries and still that won't completely destroy them, maybe render them inoperable for a few days/weeks at best. Also, the US has +11 aircraft carriers for a reason.

Look at Iran's Mehrabad airport, for example. It has been hit quite severely multiple times in the last two wars between Israel, Iran and the US. It was operational before today's skirmishes, after all the bombings it had endured.

Nah.......these GCC airfields are all close by and Iran can lay down sustained barrages on them for days on end and once they get knocked out you go in via your proxies and take em over.

Take out the HAS's/ power/ water/ command/ control bldg's/ bunkers/ housing/ crater the runways......its over.

PMU's Houthi's can then be sent in to capture them.

 

[Immortals]

I’m expecting another Iranian missile salvo within the next 1-2 hours.

Exactly 1 hour after this post….

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