Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Tumba]

India cleaning the US from the Indian Ocean? That is some solid delusions. India can't manage to hold its own against Pakistan.

While supa powa USA running away from a sanctioned Iran with no Air Force and Navy , weren’t USA was kind of treaty partner of Pakistan when India split Pakistan into two in 1971, what happened then you pissed you pants while trying to enter Bay of Bengal when India was not even 10% of of her current power.
Rest world is seeing how USA cant even hold its own against Iran while begging Iran to sign a deal

 

[ShapurII]

"Pet Marco Rubio" killed me

 

[niubi]

While supa powa USA running away from a sanctioned Iran with no Air Force and Navy , weren’t USA was kind of treaty partner of Pakistan when India split Pakistan into two in 1971, what happened then you pissed you pants while trying to enter Bay of Bengal when India was not even 10% of of her current power.
Rest world is seeing how USA cant even hold its own against Iran while begging Iran to sign a deal

If only India can fully join and commit to the anti-imperialist (anti-US and west) bandwagon with the Arab world which partially whores itself out to the West still despite history.

So far only China does any real work in this department and one could argue Russia too. Latin America is doing its part but less so due to principle and more for just profit. North Korea is useless and Iran just stepped up right to the front line.

Imagine if India and all of the Arab world commit fully, then your posts would indeed be fated for the US. Right now, the US despite much weaker than it has been and on severe decline, is still an absolute juggernaut owing to the momentum of its past strength and the sheer size of its population and capabilities. The current state of the world is still everyone looking after themselves only while the Western united world which is already the wealthiest and strongest, continue exploiting everyone with the sheer scale of its dominance over humanity and because it is so united in preserving its hegemony. In fact much of the non-western world do more harm to each other (often at the behest and initiation of the West).

 

[Tumba]

If only India can fully join and commit to the anti-imperialist (anti-US and west) bandwagon with the Arab world which partially whores itself out to the West still despite history.

So far only China does any real work in this department and one could argue Russia too. Latin America is doing its part but less so due to principle and more for just profit. North Korea is useless and Iran just stepped up right to the front line.

Imagine if India and all of the Arab world commit fully, then your posts would indeed be fated for the US. Right now, the US despite much weaker than it has been and on severe decline, is still an absolute juggernaut owing to the momentum of its past strength and the sheer size of its population and capabilities. The current state of the world is still everyone looking after themselves only while the Western united world which is already the wealthiest and strongest, continue exploiting everyone with the sheer scale of its dominance over humanity and because it is so united in preserving its hegemony. In fact much of the non-western world do more harm to each other (often at the behest and initiation of the West).

India was always committed against imperialism from west, it was china who went in bed and slept with USA against USSR in 70s and stayed till 90s, right now on time to time you see Chinese giving free pass to USA because both of their economies are intertwined.
Fact is chinese are most non serious about multipolar world because they want same hegemony with Chinese characteristics, in-fact chinese are reason why SWIFT alternative was not adopted widely, because Chinese wanted chinese system so now each BRICS is doing thr own thing.

Now apply same logic to China which you applied to India and it fits perfectly.

You can check which nation has put the largest number of cases in WTO against USA and west, its India while Chinese are just followed west in those areas.

Also regarding de dollarisation, India is doing trade with Russia, UAE, Latin America and Africa in their local currencies, India never buys Fighter Jets from Americans even though they are ready to sell F-35 thats because India retains a wild mistrust of USA.

 

[niubi]

India was always committed against imperialism from west, it was china who went in bed and slept with USA against USSR in 70s and stayed till 90s, right now on time to time you see Chinese giving free pass to USA because both of their economies are intertwined.
Fact is chinese are most non serious about multipolar world because they want same hegemony with Chinese characteristics, in-fact chinese are reason why SWIFT alternative was not adopted widely, because Chinese wanted chinese system so now each BRICS is doing thr own thing.

Now apply same logic to China which you applied to India and it fits perfectly.

You can check which nation has put the largest number of cases in WTO against USA and west, its India while Chinese are just followed west in those areas.

Also regarding de dollarisation, India is doing trade with Russia, UAE, Latin America and Africa in their local currencies, India never buys Fighter Jets from Americans even though they are ready to sell F-35 thats because India retains a wild mistrust of USA.

China built a relation with the West in the 1970s to 1990s so as to ignite its modernisation after decades of Maoism and Communism. After reforms, it recognised the need to modernise and there was no other way to achieve this than to forge some working relation.

Despite that, the entire time, China never was an ally of the West. You can make a point about how China and USSR relation soured and then China went to the West. In reality, it was just exploiting Western hatred of the USSR while China also had lots of unresolved issues with the USSR. Most forces were focused on the USSR than towards the east back then. Two birds situation. China was fearful of USSR expansion and had soured relations with USSR after Stalin and Kruschev disliked China and Mao. China saw an opportunity to extract benefits from the West during this period and more effectively counter USSR while also finding a way to modernise.

Now, China is the country consistently doing the most to counter the West. Iran is to be mentioned of course.

Putting cases to the WTO against the US is pretty pointless to be honest. Particularly for China that needs to treat the WTO with due respect given how exposed China's economy is to the whims of the masters of such entities. It's a completely different minefield China and India navigate in the world.

De-dollarisation is great. More power to it and more of it.

 

[Tumba]

China built a relation with the West in the 1970s to 1990s so as to ignite its modernisation after decades of Maoism and Communism. After reforms, it recognised the need to modernise and there was no other way to achieve this than to forge some working relation.

Despite that, the entire time, China never was an ally of the West. You can make a point about how China and USSR relation soured and then China went to the West. In reality, it was just exploiting Western hatred of the USSR while China also had lots of unresolved issues with the USSR. Most forces were focused on the USSR than towards the east back then. Two birds situation. China was fearful of USSR expansion and had soured relations with USSR after Stalin and Kruschev disliked China and Mao. China saw an opportunity to extract benefits from the West during this period and more effectively counter USSR while also finding a way to modernise.

Now, China is the country consistently doing the most to counter the West. Iran is to be mentioned of course.

Putting cases to the WTO against the US is pretty pointless to be honest. Particularly for China that needs to treat the WTO with due respect given how exposed China's economy is to the whims of the masters of such entities. It's a completely different minefield China and India navigate in the world.

De-dollarisation is great. More power to it and more of it.

Well I dont see anything that china is doing overtly against US hegemony.

Anyway back to topic, I just hope Iranians some how gets their energy export unsanctioned rest everything else is non issue in long term.

Iran will only reach its full potential when it can sell its Oil and Gas freely.

Getting a nuclear weapon is a joke for wealthy and technologically advanced nations.

In my humble opinion Iranians should agree to send the HEU in batches over a decade meanwhile letting west inspect while getting enormously wealthy and mastering other technologies.

Once Iran is wealthy and technologically advanced they can make nuclear weapons in days.

Play the long game Iranian friends.

 

[ety]

China built a relation with the West in the 1970s to 1990s so as to ignite its modernisation after decades of Maoism and Communism. After reforms, it recognised the need to modernise and there was no other way to achieve this than to forge some working relation.

Despite that, the entire time, China never was an ally of the West. You can make a point about how China and USSR relation soured and then China went to the West. In reality, it was just exploiting Western hatred of the USSR while China also had lots of unresolved issues with the USSR. Most forces were focused on the USSR than towards the east back then. Two birds situation. China was fearful of USSR expansion and had soured relations with USSR after Stalin and Kruschev disliked China and Mao. China saw an opportunity to extract benefits from the West during this period and more effectively counter USSR while also finding a way to modernise.

Now, China is the country consistently doing the most to counter the West. Iran is to be mentioned of course.

Putting cases to the WTO against the US is pretty pointless to be honest. Particularly for China that needs to treat the WTO with due respect given how exposed China's economy is to the whims of the masters of such entities. It's a completely different minefield China and India navigate in the world.

De-dollarisation is great. More power to it and more of it.

China was facing existential threat from USSR in the 1970s and most of 1980s with million strong of its troops deployed alone China-Soviet borders. China was then enemy of two superpowers US and USSR that couldn't be the norm for long. So China had made a decision to side with the lesser evil or threating to China at the time that was US. Any rational country in the situation probably would make similar choice. Others have no right to criticize China on its decision.