Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[vmro]

Unfortunately, in Iran, the predictions of optimists have always been wrong, while those of pessimists have always come true. Those who support the negotiations should be ashamed to recall that they supported them even before Khamenei was assassinated in a cowardly ambush. The United States will never withdraw; it will remain in the Middle East forever. It will absolutely not retreat until Iran is destroyed. Every step Iran takes backward brings it that much closer to annihilation. The Iranian people should finally learn a lesson from North Korea, which has not only survived unscathed but has also recently achieved remarkable modernization.

Iran is much more prosperous with much more potential than N. Korea, and also survived war with USA, in toe-to-toe fighting which has its own value, and cemented its status as important player on global scale...

IMHO with such enormous resources and educated population, Iran could be optimistic about their future...

 

[Persian Gulf]

I’m confused. Is no nuclear enrichment a part of the deal or not?

There is no deal yet just a MOU

The MOU does not reach an understanding between the parties regarding enrichment (excerpt that Iran shall not enrich during the 60 days, which it isn’t anyway), this is to be discussed during the 60 days

 

[BananaRepublic]

I disagree with this assessment because this ceasefire or deal, whatever we call it, is giving the US one of its main objectives: to dismantle Iran's nuclear program.

They had 3 strategic objectives: 1. Iran's nuclear program, 2. Iran's missile program, 3. regime change. This ceasefire has literally gifted them the first one, after they failed to achieve it militarily.

Now where do you think we will be after this? I'm telling you from right now, they will move to the second objective. They will put more economic pressure on Iran and carry more strikes to eventually neutralize Iran's BM threat. Once that is achieved, they'll go for the third objective.

Iran did not concede HEU last year. The reformists wanted to hand it over on a silver platter but Khamenei and the conservatives strongly opposed that.

Bro, Iran has stated multiple times its nuclear program is for civilian purposes only.

Iran signed an agreement with Obama to do just that.

So, pls tell me how you can lose something which you had already given up a decade ago.

And which you had agreed to give up multiple times during negotiations with Trump - before the war started!!!

Stop reasoning like an Indian!!!

Your red lines of regime survival and missiles have been strengthened by this war.

And you have added SoH and sovereignty over GCC poodles to the list as well.

Israel has also been shown the limits of its Zionist fascism.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Look at this gents:

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Easy peasy killing Indians and destroying their tankers.

No consequences other than strongly worded statements from the waiter.......lol

Irans watching India getting treated like a street pig. Not a good scene.

I bet India's buying Iranian crude and paying toll, and the US don't like it.

It’s divine retribution for India allowing USA a hit on the Iranian navy ships. And then compounding it by refusing to rescue the sailors.

India has demonstrated zero moral compass - it deserves no mercy.

India has become a cesspit under Modi.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Because the non-Iranians do not understand the situation as well as Iranians do. Iranians understand what is coming for them eventually, and there's been plenty of similar events in the past 2-3 decades to support this.

I believe it is a trivia to say that a Pakistani national understands the situation of Pakistan better than me. The same is true in the other direction.

It’s narcissistic thinking.

Then you are asserting that humans cannot empathise based on identify.

You don’t have to physically feel pain to show empathy.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Iran is much more prosperous with much more potential than N. Korea, and also survived war with USA, in toe-to-toe fighting which has its own value, and cemented its status as important player on global scale...

IMHO with such enormous resources and educated population, Iran could be optimistic about their future...

North Korea is a dictatorship - unlikely to survive the death of the Kims.

Its current form is unlikely survive if it comes in contact with the west.

Whereas Iran has been completely infiltrated by Israel and west - and still standing.

 

[ShotErrorKh]

Two false sirens in 3hrs, thoughts?

 

[BananaRepublic]

Just ONE US Navy Ohio class submarine can annihilate an entire country the size of Iran at least 10 times over.

This is a corrupt and very quick way for Trump and his cronies to make hundreds of billions of $$ from market speculation over the weekend while the Zionists tried to plunge the USA into another war as a side salad.

Even the Russians wouldn't want to go up against the US Navy submarine fleet.

The 1971 issue was in internal civil war set up by the Soviet KGB which trained Mujeeb and the likes, who took advantage of failure of govt response to floods from prior years and made it an issue of ethnicity and language.

The USA didn't need to send anything except one submarine at that time to send shiver down India's spine.

The USA was mostly concerned about the USSR and was focused entirely on Vietnam at that time.

A single Ohio class submarine can completely annihilate India before lunch and the Indians wouldn't even see it coming.

On their own the Indians couldn't cut a cow in half. So let's just be grown ups here.

Why does “mighty USA” keep losing wars then?

Another US Cowboy who thinks wars are won by death and destruction lol

As I said few days ago, if that was the criteria, Mongols would rule the world instead of embracing Islam.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Another US Cowboy who thinks wars are won by death and destruction lol

As I said few days ago, if that was the criteria, Mongols would rule the world instead of embracing Islam.

It's pathological, isn't it? But what else would you expect from a nation of lynchers that used to firebomb churches because black people worshipped there.

It's a uniquely impotent bloody rage. Israelis have the same mental disease.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ShotErrorKh]

 

[BananaRepublic]

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Given how well Hezbollah is doing - is a ceasefire necessary?

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Iran has to respond and should use this final opportunity to deliver a real blow on Israel

The Intel AI data centre is a great option

Failing to respond will signal Iran’s downfall

 

[Nawnaw1]

Iran has to respond and should use this final opportunity to deliver a real blow on Israel

The Intel AI data centre is a great option

Failing to respond will signal Iran’s downfall

Stop glooming bro. Stop glooming.

 

[Bahrami]

I don't get it why they have still not targeted the INTEL FAB. It is literally their most important strategic asset in their economical sector.

They should have attacked that thing on day 1 when they killed Khamanei.