Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Lulldapull said:
I believe its evident that nukes have well n truly run their course and are now relegated to the status of legacy weapons.

Nobody is deterred anymore from retaliating even if one party possesses them.

Pretty obvious that the way India attacked us during Sindoor op.......they completely disregarded our nuke arsenal and went ahead with a massive attack. Our nuke deterrence does not exist and the same goes for India.

Nukes have failed to prevent conflict.
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you're right that the nukes fail to prevent someone from attacking you conventionally, but it also has a fear factor for the attacker, that if the one being attacked has RED LINES crossed, then it would spiral into a nukes war.

So between India-Pakistan, say we have 10 days fuel, and india has 15 days supply. When we run out early at 10, guess what, its nukes then. Last resort but its a MAD type situation then
Russia can turn europe into dust if it so wants, its trying to avoid it. But it may just have its hand forced.
Do u think fat kim cares? the moment he senses anyone attacking his land, he will fire those big boys and that would be it.

If Pakistan did not have nukes, we would've been attacked by many countries by now. So having them is keeping many at bay. Thanks to Dr AQ Khan and his team.
 
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Trump doesn’t like being criticised.

He’s wannabe alpha male.

Bibi didn’t bend so Trump going overboard to praise Iran.

He might lift all sanctions and release all frozen assets - just to spite Bibi.
 
ShapurII said:
If this is true, then no money for Iran. So, Trump was right that the US was not going to pay anything to Iran upfront.
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$8 billion+ in oil sales in two months through sanctions relief (Iran did not get full sanctions relief for oil and petrochemical exports prior to the war)

some assets will be unfrozen too. the MOU is vague on it, but as Trump said, the understandings they have beyond the MOU are more important, and I am sure one of those understandings relates to frozen assets. Trump even said today that it's Iran's money, so of course they have to give it back.
 
PK781 said:
you're right that the nukes fail to prevent someone from attacking you conventionally, but it also has a fear factor for the attacker, that if the one being attacked has RED LINES crossed, then it would spiral into a nukes war.

So between India-Pakistan, say we have 10 days fuel, and india has 15 days supply. When we run out early at 10, guess what, its nukes then. Last resort but its a MAD type situation then
Russia can turn europe into dust if it so wants, its trying to avoid it. But it may just have its hand forced.
Do u think fat kim cares? the moment he senses anyone attacking his land, he will fire those big boys and that would be it.

If Pakistan did not have nukes, we would've been attacked by many countries by now. So having them is keeping many at bay. Thanks to Dr AQ Khan and his team.
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If Pakistan didn’t have nukes - India would threaten to nuke 24/7.

Their rabid dog saffrons would also demand tactical nukes if India ever got into a hole fighting a conventional war.

Nukes puts a ceiling on how far conventional wars can escalate.
 
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