Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

As i posted before muricans are feeling the heat domestically for supporting terrorists
RocketLaw said:
Trump HUMILIATES Netanyahu at the G7 Press Conference After Iran MoU Defiance

We are the big partner, and he is the very small partner.

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‘War is Gods way of teaching Americans geography’….They f***ed up big.
 
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ShapurII said:
For the non-Iranians, he says that the 3 F-15s that were shot down by the Kuwaiti pilot were shot down because they were moving towards Iran at the same time that our jet fighters had just bombed the Buehring Camp and the Kuwaiti pilot thought he was targeting our F-5s.
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That’s a more believable explanation than the Kuwaiti one.
 
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reasonably good deal. "unconditional surrender" was a total failure.
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If this is true, then no money for Iran. So, Trump was right that the US was not going to pay anything to Iran upfront.
 
Meengla said:
How can you be so wrong?! The Iranian nuclear program was always a bargaining chip and they have used that wonderfully.
SMH!
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A good assessment. Genuinely seems this way.

I do think that Trump has actually been scammed here. Iran has made him believe that JCPOA was somehow better for Iran, when in truth, the CURRENT DEAL is better for Iran.

Iran is the clear financial victor in this war.

Add in the entire global paradigm shift regarding Israel and some sort of ongoing leverage over Hormuz and Iran has a bright few decades lined up. Its influence will only grow from here on. Pahlavist banshees will be screaming through their botox for a while.

All of this does of course assume the documents will be signed and that Israel won't play saboteur. I have to agree with a certain perennial sceptic of ours on that!
 
SolarWarden said:
The vast majority of US offensive capabilities will remain in the region and final couple weeks of 60 day ceasefire if Iran has not fulfilled any or part of deal you're going to see USAF aircraft start flying to the region again. I just can't see Iran destroying their enriched uranium.
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So if Iran dares not take America's money, Iran will get bombed?
 
Ignoring war crimes.

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A good assessment. Genuinely seems this way.

I do think that Trump has actually been scammed here. Iran has made him believe that JCPOA was somehow better for Iran, when in truth, the CURRENT DEAL is better for Iran.

Iran is the clear financial victor in this war.

Add in the entire global paradigm shift regarding Israel and some sort of ongoing leverage over Hormuz and Iran has a bright few decades lined up. Its influence will only grow from here on. Pahlavist banshees will be screaming through their botox for a while.

All of this does of course assume the documents will be signed and that Israel won't play saboteur. I have to agree with a certain perennial sceptic of ours on that!
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Iran has stated they hired psychiatrists to understand Trump’s mental state.

They figured flattery and denigration of his opponents is the way to manipulate him.

Making JCPOA seem like a better deal was central to this.
 
PakistanLVR said:
With all due respect to you, your assertions about everything are flat out wrong. Very wrong.
The Ukrainians sources have stated that the NK have fought aggressively and not surrender unlike the average Russian conscript.

You think Pakistans nukes are non-existing or non-working but they have routinely saved the country from being balkanized.

You think nukes are no longer effective weapons, but the U.S. is rushing towards creating the golden dome because they fear a MAD situation in the future involving nuke warheads.

do you honestly think the U.S. or Israel would’ve dared attack like that had Iran had nuclear weapons? Additionally why did the U.S. take a softer approach vs Pakistan when Afghanistan became a proxy war.

You’re equating Indians launching air strikes on madrassas and then within hour calling for a ceasefire because they fully understand the escalation ladder that Pakistan had in its back pocket.

I get the cheerleading for what Iran has accomplished but not a single Iranian or Pakistani here thinks that not having nuclear weapons is a smart policy.
Even a few weeks back Iran in a phone conversation with Pakistan implied about testing a nuke which forced Trump to quickly understand the grave situation, but you think nukes no longer matters lol. You’re crazy af.
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Oh bhai facts are that Irans easily humbled both the US n Israel without needing nukes, in only 40 days.

India/ Pak fought a big war, probably the sharpest engagement since 1971 and nukes were not even a factor.

Busted ass Afghani charsi beat the US military. Took em 20 years, but they prevailed without even proper nutrition, let alone nukes.

And here we got Russia which gets attacked by pretty much everyone in NATO almost daily. And Russia is a huge nuke power.

Fat kim is harmless and he understands his situation, that's why he doesn't do anything. And we know his weapons suck, from reports of their poor performance in Ukraine.

In all these cases nukes are essentially worthless.
 
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