Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khorasan Black Flags]

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[Yasser76]

Very bad news for Kuwait, I think something like 95% of their water comes from Desalination.

If this continues there will be a rush on bottled water, if that is not already happening.

You will now have images of KAF C-130s flying in water.

This will not go down well with GCC....

 

[ShapurII]

I am much more optimistic. Yes US entered inside Irán and operated during hours, but the landing finished in a complete failure with more than half dozen aircrafts destroyed.

Even US personnel said that every Iranian with a weapon was shooting them. And that would make things extraordinary difficult to them. This kind of numantine resistance can be mixed with all propaganda apparatus just to tell them that US is the invader, and their interest relies just in oíl that can be easily traded vía international commerce.

Irán is not Irak. There are high mountains, and a lot of short range missiles like Fath360 and drones enough for make indirect fire support literally hundreds of kilometers away. Much more than Ukraine, whose military didn't have that awesome conventional ballistic missile force.

Unfortunately, the south of Iran is pretty flat compared to the rest of the Iranian plateau. Most of our mountains are in the west and the north.

Also, shooting at the USAF patrolling and scanning the area with weapons is different from resisting against the US Army on the ground.

That aside, the US successfully rescued both of the pilots. They failed to enter Natanz though, because it was a stupid plan. But they did rescue both of their pilots after operating inside Iran for almost 2 days.

 

[Mav3rick]

Its the same as US warships hitting any tankers or ships heading for Iran - a move to try and control the SOH. A ship cant be classified as "civilian infrastructure" but it is a civilian vessel.

"Civilian" is the key word here. If Iran hits civilian targets of other countries then all Iranian civilian targets are fair game.

 

[RescueRanger]

Very bad news for Kuwait, I think something like 95% of their water comes from Desalination.

If this continues there will be a rush on bottled water, if that is not already happening.

You will now have images of KAF C-130s flying in water.

This will not go down well with GCC....

Clearly Iran hit something significant. Saudi Govt Air Ambulance air lifting someone out of Kuwait City.

 

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[retaxis]

Yes Iran does not want to inflict too much casualties so not to escalate things too fast.

China when it was weak and no nukes in Korean war had thousands of americans trapped. Instead of finishing them off, China let them escape via sea because killing thousands of americans in a day might have caused china to get nuked back then.

 

[ShapurII]

Very bad news for Kuwait, I think something like 95% of their water comes from Desalination.

If this continues there will be a rush on bottled water, if that is not already happening.

You will now have images of KAF C-130s flying in water.

This will not go down well with GCC....

Hopefully, the same is awaiting Bahrain, Qatar and eventually the Emirates.

They should remember their own proverb that people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

 

[Pakistan First]

Needless to say, Iran attacking a US aircraft carrier would result in massive outrage in the states, would actually harden domestic opinions regarding the war and galvanize support against Iran mong NATO members.

I have a different opinion on this.

At the same time this could create deterrence at Iran's end. Right now US is attacking Iran left, right, top, bottom and anytime it wants. There's zero deterrence right now. They are hitting it with impunity. Aircraft carrier can't be sunk anyways. Hitting it or disabling it would be beneficial for Iran as that would increase the cost of war on US as it would be taken out of the combat and US would need other carriers to deploy. Majority of crew might survive but making a hole in the aircraft deck Or burning its radars etc is the thing to do for Iran. This is weapon of war and its hitting Iran day in and day out. If Iran don't even hit it due to fear of reprecussion then we have to accept that Iran is really in sorry state?

I think only reason Iran is not hitting carrier is because Iran lacks capability to hit it. Otherwise I see no reason to show your capabilities and put pressure in anyways so US can see costs increasing, US can see potential loss of lives in continuation of war. It would give more options and more negotiation strength to Iran if Iran is able to demonstrate this capability.

Lets say a projectile hits a carrier and 30 odd military sailors are killed and carrier is disabled for operation. The narrative in US could also swung against the Trump's war. The cost of war could go very high.

 

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[Yasser76]

Clearly Iran hit something significant. Saudi Govt Air Ambulance air lifting someone out of Kuwait City.
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Yeah, because of the nature of the country (small and basically everything centred around Kuwait City and its supporting towns) finding targets will not be difficult.

Kuwait is probably the most vulnerable GCC country, very close to Iran and does not have the Persian Gulf as a barrier and time to alert of missiles.

 

[Yasser76]

Hopefully, the same is awaiting Bahrain, Qatar and eventually the Emirates.

They should remember their own proverb that people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

Agree with all of that apart from Qatar.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Iran's bombing completely destroyed 3 major buildings in the UAE' Zayed Military City

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[RescueRanger]

Lets say a projectile hits a carrier and 30 odd military sailors are killed

I suppose I am the only voice of reason here right now...

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