Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Iran doesn't have to sink US Navy ships if it can deny them port radar and satellite guidance, logistics, resupply, and refuelling.

Iran's military objective is clear: Force US military to leave all regional bases and ports.

Interesting but the US won't be permanently leaving any bases or installations in the area anytime soon
 
They aren’t really “third countries”! They are client states.

You really are fretting over whether to hit California or Texas because of their political hue.

It’s all US!

since when is starvation a valid war approach unless you are clearly saying it is?


This whole client state or not client state mentality is regressive and binary in a self defeating way

You will completely lose the battle of ideas and the Muslim Street, anyway this is an extreme hypothetical
 
The enabling happened about 20 years ago once the infrastructure was in place, after that point it was fait accompli that they would be operational maybe one day, this is nothing new.

Now sounds like the Arab states are the number one enemy and Israel is an afterthought.

As if Israel will cry that the vanguard nation of Shia Islam is weakening the vanguard Nations of sunni Islam, because that's not an old trick is it 🙄



This whole logic becomes really weird from Iran, you have an absolutist demand that the gulf Arab States overnight completely overhaul their entire security architecture.... really?
These arabs attacked our country we should kill them ...

after finishing these countries , Israel will be next target ... if its nessccary we should put the enriched uranium and target them with it ...

I don't give **** about moral values at this stage ...
 
The enabling happened about 20 years ago once the infrastructure was in place, after that point it was fait accompli that they would be operational maybe one day, this is nothing new.

Now sounds like the Arab states are the number one enemy and Israel is an afterthought.

As if Israel will cry that the vanguard nation of Shia Islam is weakening the vanguard Nations of sunni Islam, because that's not an old trick is it 🙄



This whole logic becomes really weird from Iran, you have an absolutist demand that the gulf Arab States overnight completely overhaul their entire security architecture.... really?
Its pretty simple, no?

Dont let your country become a launching pad to attack another country.

How would Pakistan react if indian airforce started using afghanistan bases and attack kpk and balochistan?
 
since when is starvation a valid war approach unless you are clearly saying it is?


This whole client state or not client state mentality is regressive and binary in a self defeating way

You will completely lose the battle of ideas and the Muslim Street, anyway this is an extreme hypothetical

I have no idea why you have started a quarrel with me!

I cannot remember when we have disagreed on philosophy.

I am very clear.

If Iran’s food supplies are attacked then all bets are off.

As I said, starving people cannot be held morally accountable.
 
The demand is only that Arabs do not allow the US to use their territory to attack Iran. It is not asking for much. If it is too much, then there will be consequences. That is all.

A bit late for those demands.

The entire collective enterprise of this attack on Iran came from third countries, suddenly you are cool on them?

The Arab States clearly are implicated, but they are much further downstream, and in a mechanical transactional way.

It's starting to seem like Iran is going for a selected enemy to vent out at.

How many weeks/months will it take you to accomplish your goals with the Arab states, at what cost, and frankly will you have the appetite to pursue anyone else, or capability?


So ultimately it will become an intra muslim war, damaging and killing one another, started by another country. Americans and israelis laughing their head off
 
they already hit our bridges, electricity infrastructure, and water infrastructure.

Both sides are punishing each other heavily.

What is clear is that there will be negotiations, sooner or later.

It is just a matter of each side deciding how much punishment they can absorb before sitting down at the table.
 
Its pretty simple, no?

Dont let your country become a launching pad to attack another country.

How would Pakistan react if indian airforce started using afghanistan bases and attack kpk and balochistan?
Well if there was a decades gap between the capability becoming a physical reality versus when you actually take action, then some people in Pakistan have been criminally negligent and cant suddenly pretend to open their eyes as if it's a surprise, they let the threat manifest so long, so to remove it will have the proportionate cost

It's a very fine line Iran has to operate in the longer this goes, there is a basic reality that the appetite of other countries to have tolerance for the cost cannot just remain static, that is fantasy.


And I wonder in this scenario, if Iran would even tolerate Pakistan ....hypothetically..... causing all sorts of economic and other headaches that might come onto Iran...... 🙄
 
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if this is true, then we are the biggest slaves of arabs, who are slaves of america. We are finished if this is true, what has kuwait done for pakistan? if anything?!
 

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