Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mehdipersian]

yes but Tehran is easy for Israel to hit as it is close to Azerbaijan and the Caspian Sea

Mashhad is 750km further away from Israel than Tehran

It's not easy for anyone when the shelter is strong and deep.

 

[Persian Gulf]

It's not easy for anyone when the shelter is strong and deep.

tell that to Bagheri, Salami, Hajizadeh and dozens others

and the entire SNSC who had to escape their meeting in a bunker in north Tehran through an emergency tunnel exit

anything that can be moved further away from the enemy, will benefit from a degree of superior passive protection as a result. this is a very simple fact.

 

[FUB]

Two failed regime change operations

 

[FUB]

 

[Watandar]

tell that to Bagheri, Salami, Hajizadeh and dozens others

and the entire SNSC who had to escape their meeting in a bunker in north Tehran through an emergency tunnel exit

anything that can be moved further away from the enemy, will benefit from a degree of superior passive protection as a result. this is a very simple fact.

But the plans seem to be to slowly move sensitive people and facilities further south and east. Doesn't that mean they can be attacked from the sea ?

Seems to me that moving to center west of Iran, closer to Afghanistan may geographically be best. Whether its feasible is another matter.

 

[ToddE]

@Emirzad

Btw, which part of Iranian Azerbaijan are you from?

Khoy/Salmas (West Azerbaijan) origin but lets get back to the topic.

I was saying, if Iranian military knows something or perceive a threat from north west, they will act on it without accepting it in media. They have done it in past. But so far very less hints point to Baku's deliberate involvement so its a nothing burger case.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[kastor ville]

Two failed regime change operations

He said 2 regime changes that failed......he meant in 1953 and 1979.

 

[Homajon]

Iran tried to pressure Thailand to pull 40K farm workers from Israel in exchange for Oct. 7 hostages: report

Tehran attempted to leverage Bangkok into crippling the Israeli economy by trying to broker a deal between Thailand and Hamas, who had captured 39 of its citizens.

nypost.com

If that's really true

 

[Persian Gulf]

Israel has allocated $43 billion to its military budget in 2026-27, which is 21.2% of its overall state budget

this is the second highest military budget by % of budget in the world after only Ukraine

the budget is based on the findings of the Nagel Report, which recommended:

• Israel must increase its capacity for a "massive and sustained" attack on Iran
• Israel must not "contain" threats and must adopt a preemptive and active approach: "deliberately going to war, at the right moment, is essential for the future of the State."
• Israel's use of force should be "as disproportionate as possible, and continuously unrelenting," leading to the annihilation or debilitation of its enemies.

I wonder what the equivalent of the Nagel Report in Iran is. strategic patience in the face of a proactive and disproportionate enemy is not a feasible strategy.

 

[Persian Gulf]

major damage across Khojr missile base as of June 20th, 2025

recent satellite image indicates that most of the damage is in the final stages of repair

 

[ToddE]

Israel has allocated $43 billion to its military budget in 2026-27, which is 21.2% of its overall state budget

this is the second highest military budget by % of budget in the world after only Ukraine

the budget is based on the findings of the Nagel Report, which recommended:

• Israel must increase its capacity for a "massive and sustained" attack on Iran
• Israel must not "contain" threats and must adopt a preemptive and active approach: "deliberately going to war, at the right moment, is essential for the future of the State."
• Israel's use of force should be "as disproportionate as possible, and continuously unrelenting," leading to the annihilation or debilitation of its enemies.

I wonder what the equivalent of the Nagel Report in Iran is. strategic patience in the face of a proactive and disproportionate enemy is not a feasible strategy.

Considering the tone of some of the commanders still going on with public narrative building, I wont be too surprised if they get exposed in next conflict. IRIAF is still in-existent, the western FABs esp Tabriz received extensive damage and we are not seeing new airframes. A whole three new squadrons of CAP fighters are needed at western FABs even if they are local F-5s to have some level of aerial deterence but nothing is happening. No massive upgrade of IRIADF is happening either, few new TELARs are seen but they wont make any strategic difference considering the IADS is still vulnerable to ALBM/ALCM fire from Iraq. IRGCASF is silent so could be interpreted as either having nothing new or having lots to hide.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Israel has allocated $43 billion to its military budget in 2026-27, which is 21.2% of its overall state budget

this is the second highest military budget by % of budget in the world after only Ukraine

the budget is based on the findings of the Nagel Report, which recommended:

• Israel must increase its capacity for a "massive and sustained" attack on Iran
• Israel must not "contain" threats and must adopt a preemptive and active approach: "deliberately going to war, at the right moment, is essential for the future of the State."
• Israel's use of force should be "as disproportionate as possible, and continuously unrelenting," leading to the annihilation or debilitation of its enemies.

I wonder what the equivalent of the Nagel Report in Iran is. strategic patience in the face of a proactive and disproportionate enemy is not a feasible strategy.

If you wanted any more clear indication of the intent of war on Iran by Israel, this is it. Will the Iranian leadership understand the significance of this and act accordingly is as you say, up to debate.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Considering the tone of some of the commanders still going on with public narrative building, I wont be too surprised if they get exposed in next conflict. IRIAF is still in-existent, the western FABs esp Tabriz received extensive damage and we are not seeing new airframes. A whole three new squadrons of CAP fighters are needed at western FABs even if they are local F-5s to have some level of aerial deterence but nothing is happening. No massive upgrade of IRIADF is happening either, few new TELARs are seen but they wont make any strategic difference considering the IADS is still vulnerable to ALBM/ALCM fire from Iraq. IRGCASF is silent so could be interpreted as either having nothing new or having lots to hide.

tactically successful strikes mean your opponent has to spend a year+ just to rebuild

this is what we see with the SSM bases and MoD and missile facilities generally

and this is what our own MRBM strikes on Israeli air bases failed to achieve

 

[ToddE]

tactically successful strikes mean your opponent has to spend a year+ just to rebuild

this is what we see with the SSM bases and MoD and missile facilities generally

and this is what our own MRBM strikes on Israeli air bases failed to achieve

I more worried about strike + defense capabilities not being enhanced at right pace because damage repair is one-thing but deterrence stops war and IRI is not doing that. It has been half a year since war yet we are just in the repair phase while we know entire EU+US will help Israel like loyal dogs in getting whatever they want. May be IRI has learnt to be more secretive esp IRGC but considering the overall culture I will be concerned.