Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[maverick]

Delusions.

US could have full control of Iranian airspace in a week if it went all out.

There simply isn’t the necessary systems in place to build reliable kill zones against F-22, F-35, and B-2. Against hundreds of planes eventually any system would collapse. Plus you add in Iran has so much mountainous terrain that causes dead zones for radar and enemies can exploit.

Iran also has no modern Air Force to patrol the borders blocking incursion attempts or meeting enemy squadrons over the Persian Gulf.

Again, you can’t expect much out of a country that spends $25B/year on military vs one that spends $900B/year. The deterrence that prevented all this was Iran’s missile program and proxies would set the Middle East on fire and the Persian Gulf would be shut down, etc.

But it seems a lot of that was bluster and rhetoric. The missiles while deadly required hundreds to be expended to break thru Western shields who used the war in Yemen and the hundreds of ballistic attacks the Houthis did to prepare against an eventual Iranian salvo.

Not sure what Iran’s plan is this time around.

There is nothing they can do.

Is Pakistan safe for now?

If the war escalates, and prolongs, Pakistan will be dragged into the war with India

 

[Feroze]

@Kyussis , what is your solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

If you do not support the two state solution?

 

[Bharatah]

Delusions.

US could have full control of Iranian airspace in a week if it went all out.

There simply isn’t the necessary systems in place to build reliable kill zones against F-22, F-35, and B-2. Against hundreds of planes eventually any system would collapse. Plus you add in Iran has so much mountainous terrain that causes dead zones for radar and enemies can exploit.

Iran also has no modern Air Force to patrol the borders blocking incursion attempts or meeting enemy squadrons over the Persian Gulf.

Again, you can’t expect much out of a country that spends $25B/year on military vs the strongest empire in modern history that spends $900B/year. The deterrence that prevented all this was Iran’s missile program and proxies would set the Middle East on fire and the Persian Gulf would be shut down, etc.

But it seems a lot of that deterrence was bluster and rhetoric. The missiles while deadly, required hundreds to be expended to break thru Western shields. The West used the war in Yemen and the hundreds of ballistic attacks the Houthis did to prepare against an eventual Iranian salvo.

Not sure what Iran’s plan is this time around.

Zionist fake news, if the US could do what you're saying, it would have done it years ago and the Iran we know wouldn't exist anymore. Besides, the US would also have deactivated Russian defense systems in Ukraine and expelled Russia from there.The only real power that the US/Israel has is bribery, through spies, they go there and bribe people who betray Maduro, shoot down the Iranian president's helicopter, deactivate defense systems, plant bombs in bunkers (and then report that bunkers were blown up by bombings), etc.But now, for the first time, Iran is cleaning up the country.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

There are plenty of videos on X. IRGC thugs are dressed out in civilian clothing too. Again, Iranians are being murdered for wanting a better future. The evidence goes back many years.

Khamenei and his thugs should be destroyed. Iranians deserve a better future

Are the 93 million Iranian people not capable of choosing their own future that a white supremacist, barbaric nation from thousands of kilometres away feels the need to dictate this?

 

[maverick]

It US attacks then Aytollahs can take the fatwa of no nukes in their behinds. they brought the misery on Iranian people themselves

 

[German Angst]

Iran tried to be friends with Pakistan and India and pissed off virtually the whole Middle East. Selfmade annihilation.

 

[maverick]

Do you really believe that there are any Americans vacationing in Iran in the middle of a war against Israel? What's happening is that with the fall of Starlink, the CIA/Mossad lost communication with internal spies, so they are using traditional media to send military messages. Trump is ordering the remaining spies to flee or they will be killed or captured.

Iranian americans go to homeland quite often. he is asking them to leave, the bombings can commence within 24 hours.

 

[Kyussis]

@Kyussis , what is your solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

If you do not support the two state solution?

Its not that i don't support a two state solution per say. Its that there will never be a two state solution as long as long as Israel's annexation of Palestinian lands is not stopped.
No one is willing to stand up to Israel and those who have tried (Axis of Resistance) have been betrayed at every turn.

 

[Immortals]

Well Iran is stupid to want to destroy Israel. Israel is here to stay as long as USA supports Israel.

Two state solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

The real stupidity is why did Iran want to destroy Israel when no one else on the planet did?

Not russia
Not China
Not Pakistan
Not Egypt
not turkey
Not Saudi arabia
Not UAE
Not Qatar
Not African countries
Not Morocco
Not Iraq
Not Afghanistan
Not Syria (Post Assad)

When so many middle eastern and Asian countries DO NOT care about the Palestinian genocide or cause, why did IR of Iran bet its entire 45 year history on it?

Again, a foreign policy that never was rooted in reason and reality. Iran could simply have chosen not to have relations with Israel and focus instead on its economy and growing stronger and modernizing to one day be powerful enough to have a say.

 

[Bharatah]

The real stupidity is why did Iran want to destroy Israel when no one else on the planet did?

Not russia
Not China
Not Pakistan
Not Egypt
not turkey
Not Saudi arabia
Not UAE
Not Qatar
Not African countries
Not Morocco
Not Iraq
Not Afghanistan
Not Syria (Post Assad)

When so many middle eastern and Asian countries DO NOT care about the Palestinian genocide or cause, why did IR of Iran bet its entire 45 year history on it?

Again, a foreign policy that never was rooted in reason and reality. Iran could simply have chosen not to have relations with Israel and focus instead on its economy and growing stronger and modernizing to one day be powerful enough to have a say.

My friend, this has nothing to do with Palestine. Iraq , Vietnã, Afghanistan and others never helped Palestine and were attacked several times.

 

[Immortals]

Is Pakistan safe for now?

For now. But after Iran falls, The focus will turn to bringing freedom in Russia and China. Anyone seen aiding these two countries will be seen as the enemy.

So I can see a future where Pakistan is heavily pressured to drop its military and economic ties to China.

That’s when things will get interesting.

China and Russia can rest easy for now. But the U.S. is coming. Don’t be surprised when you see protests in Russia or China.

 

[German Angst]

@Immortals So committing war crimes in Syria, flattening Syrian cities with innocents, instigating a civil war in Yemen, infiltrating Pakistan and destabilizing Balochistan was all for the Palestinian cause?

 

[Liquidator]

Whatever is happening, users are reminded to reflect on prior events to help inform productions.

A few disjointed observations:

- During the 12 day war, when Iran finally started dealing heavy blows, Trump starting making several threats on Iran. These were masked nuclear threats, as he repeatedly used his platform to say Tehran must be evacuated. There's only one reason you evacuate a city. This coincided with Iran issuing evacuation orders of its own to large residential Israeli areas. This demonstrated to me a combined effort especially in the psychological domain between Trump specifically and Israel. They should be considered one entity from now on.

I recall allot of Iranians panicking when this happened. Similar events are happening now in the psyop domain. Of course, they did attack but did not resort to nukes.

I would surmise that these judeo-christian evangelical terrorists have a low threshold to use nukes. They are no longer used as a deterrent; rather, a threat if you do not yield to their devious designs and do not allow them to kill your women and children by allowing them to amass forces at your front door.....

- The western powers do not miss opportunities. If they see an opening, they'll take full advantage. Recall what happened in Syria when Assad fell....Israel destroyed all its military infrastructure.

It is possible that they will go for all Iranian leadership. This tactic has worked well for them in Lebanon and they've applied it to Venezuela. The power vacuum will then give them time to inflict major damage.

This is a very dangerous time for Iran...

 

[Ali_Baba]

US won‘t attack without making sure beforehand that Iran can‘t retaliate

Exactly how can it do that ?? Lol ..

 

[Master Chief]

Israel and the Iranian regime are equally bad. Dunno why people have to pick the side of the Shia entity. Iran is a lost cause. This regime always had an expiration date and it seems it will be met now. Pakistan shouldn‘t get involved. Stay in the Saudi-China-Türkiye-Pakistan bloc.

Disagree. As "bad" or "good" as this Iranian regime may be as per your assessment, a pro-zionist government in Tehran is quite simply a terrible outcome for Pakistan. The even worse still outcome is total regime collapse, leading to balkanisation of a nation that has a border with us.

Perhaps the only objectively "good" outcome for the region would be the victory of Iranian nationalists (irrespective of degree of religiosity) who will brutally crush local rebellions and insurrection AND keep zionist influence well away from Tehran.

Let me further point out that in this region, hindutva will gladly work together with pro-zionist Iranians to harm Pakistan. Already they are ranting on various platforms about zoroastrian dharma bhai bhai saar (which is of course rather silly of them as zoroastrianism is nothing of the sort!).