Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[shapurzolaktaf]

7 in 10 say US should not take military action over Iran protest crackdown: Survey

 

[Unknowntruth]

Israel does not have dominance in the region. It has a qualitative military edge thanks to US policy of granting it that. It does not dominate anybody besides the Palestinians.

It will continue to have that edge as long as U.S. supports it. For that reason, Israel can project its power without fear of any retaliation.

Iran is not countering that, but aiding some of Israel's enemies like Hezbollah and Hamas to keep Israel busy with them away from its borders.

So it can buy time to achieve nuclear weapons status. It's a big risk Iran chose to take.

If those other nations tried pursuing nuclear weapons they would be sanctioned likewise.

Lots of them support Hamas today and Hezbollah. They don't face crippling sanctions.

Which one of those nations is arming Hamas and Hezbollah?

Thats a small part of reason for sanctions but it's primarily the nuclear program.

Again, it's because of nuclear weapons programs.

Btw China, Russia, India, UAE, and Pakistan are doing a lot to help Iran circumvent sanctions.

You are right, it is not the only reason for sanctions but it is still a big reason. Nuclear program and ballistic missile development are other reasons for sanctions.

While Russia and Iran help a little to somewhat circumvent effects of sanctions, it is still suffering severely from suffocating sanctions.

 

[RescueRanger]

The more he opens his mouth, the more it will be difficult for him to even return to Iran let alone rule it lol

After spending many hours reading some of the pro Pahlavi supporters on Social Media a lot of their posts read like AI slop and bots.

 

[FuturePAF]

Arabs have been in more severe wars. They also had two Gulf wars with Saddam's Iraq.

This situation today is a lot less severe. Saddam was bigger threat to them than Iran.

Qatar, UAE, and even Saudi Arabia are on good terms with Iran today. But even if they got dragged it into it by the USA, they are more resilient and have better infrastructure than we think.

The only worry for Iran is lots of their domestic population are anti-regime. The government can withstand US strikes but if some people on the ground act up and start a civil war, that's the biggest worry for Iran.

This was not possible in Gaza because the domestic population is overwhelmingy pro-Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Which is why Israel and US tried their luck to expel the entire population into Egypt.

In Iran there is a lot of dissent which in my opinion is what is worrying the IRI not US/Israeli strikes.

They should have contingency plans like having national army take over country temporarily and some announcement of elections. Not sure they do.

Take into account Pakistani brothers and sisters lots of them aren't pro-IRI but we do not want instability on Pakistan's borders. Pakistan is familiar with IRI and they aren't afraid of IRI. But certainly don't want a civil war or refugees right next door.

So Arabs and Pakistan are most likely lobbying US against regime change.

US is moving aircraft carrier signaling to unilateral action is on table again. Against wishes of Arabs.

Because no neighbor of Iran is willing to work with the US, it means they will try weakening IRI through the air to try getting them to make concessions at negotiating table.

It's a skirmish not that serious it's appearing serious because IRI leadership is very calculated in a way that's doing more harm than good

If we have the example of the 78 day bombing campaign of Belgrade. Unlike Yugoslavia, which had by then been fragmented for years by then, Iran seems likely to stay unified, but that doesn’t mean instability may not continue in each of the cities for the coming weeks, following any bombing campaign.

The likely strategy is probably two prolonged; bombing Iran for days if not weeks, while Israel conducts a new campaign in Gaza. Bogging down the world into looking to stop the bombing of Iran, and distracting them and media coverage from the increased tempo of the massacre occurring in Gaza.

 

[FuturePAF]

After spending many hours reading some of the pro Pahlavi supporters on Social Media a lot of their posts read like AI slop and bots.

They are “flooding the zone”; trying to have their narrative catch on globally. But coming on the heels of what happened in Venezuela, most globally see it as a part of a wider Trump effort.

Trump playing up the Nixonian mad man theory.

 

[Unknowntruth]

After spending many hours reading some of the pro Pahlavi supporters on Social Media a lot of their posts read like AI slop and bots.

Not more than a handful of Iranians support him. Even if this Iranian regime falls, he would never be accepted. He’s just a clown they parade in the West.

 

[Falcon29]

If we have the example of the 78 day bombing campaign of Belgrade. Unlike Yugoslavia, which had by then been fragmented for years by then, Iran seems likely to stay unified, but that doesn’t mean instability may not continue in each of the cities for the coming weeks, following any bombing campaign.

The likely strategy is probably two prolonged; bombing Iran for days if not weeks, while Israel conducts a new campaign in Gaza. Bogging down the world into looking to stop the bombing of Iran, and distracting them and media coverage from the increased tempo of the massacre occurring in Gaza.

They don't have anything to gain from renewed attacks on Gaza unless they believe it's some kind of blood offering to Satan or going to try push everyone out into Egypt which would mean war with Egypt

There's also nothing for US to gain by striking Iran. It's Jewish and deep state peer pressure on Trump he might not cave in.

 

[FuturePAF]

If we have the example of the 78 day bombing campaign of Belgrade. Unlike Yugoslavia, which had by then been fragmented for years by then, Iran seems likely to stay unified, but that doesn’t mean instability may not continue in each of the cities for the coming weeks, following any bombing campaign.

The likely strategy is probably two prolonged; bombing Iran for days if not weeks, while Israel conducts a new campaign in Gaza. Bogging down the world into looking to stop the bombing of Iran, and distracting them and media coverage from the increased tempo of the massacre occurring in Gaza.

P.S. with Ramadan around the corner, it would be a moment the region as well as the religiously minded Iranians would probably feel the most motivated to push back on the anarchy in Iran and Gaza, following or during a bombing campaign.

Only 33/34 days until Ramadan.

It would also get politically harder for regimes in the region to even quietly stand by as a bombing campaign was going on, especially with heightened media coverage.

Coupling this with the anti-ICE sentiments amongst liberals and many independents, it could be a motivator for more protests in the US; visible and noisy, going into the spring, especially if something goes sideways in the execution of any of the campaigns.

 

[FuturePAF]

They don't have anything to gain from renewed attacks on Gaza unless they believe it's some kind of blood offering to Satan or going to try push everyone out into Egypt which would mean war with Egypt

There's also nothing for US to gain by striking Iran. It's Jewish and deep state peer pressure on Trump he might not cave in.

That’s if you think logically. But many Zionists are thinking emotionally; lashing out as they are being exposed in the global subconscious as at a minimum, a modern day apartheid state, And at worst, doing the worst humanity can do to each other, while trying to convince the world they don’t see what they can see.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I understand your perspective.

I mean there is a point where resistance just becomes a trap that alienates you. Iran would have been better to not push itself in a corner and trying to fight this head on. It is a tool that gives them reason to escalate, sanction, and isolate Iran.

I think it would have been better served if it formed alliances, focused on development and economic strength, etc through patience and perseverances.

If China chose to engage in every agitation it would not be where it is today. You have to pick your battles.

If they had understood the undertaking... they would have prepared correctly. No one really assumes the worst... irrational, psychotic and genocidal aims from their opponents... enemies even... empires changed hands all throughout history... the playbook of past few hundred years is uncharted on its scale... the motivation to plough on irrespective of the costs is unprecedented, the hubris and fanaticism is unreal.
The amount of death, carnage and pillage is unreal... first and the second world wars... and since then... what just happened/happening in Gaza/Palestine. Who are we kidding...
The whole world view is polar opposite... relentless versus relenting, hostile versus inviting, distrustful versus trusting, snob versus pleasant...
All of this gives an air of docile servitude... submission... easy prey.

Optics betray the prey and aid the beast! The predator is well suited to use every means necessary. The collateralization of labor and resources helped move the colonial scavengers back in the pit... the pit is collapsing on itself.

I'm not painting an abstract but a graph of events that happened and projected.

 

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Trump may be looking for a way to save face. He knows Russia or China will most likely veto it. So this could be his getaway card to avoid major military conflict.

 

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Hello sir,
Im confused is this sarcasm ? thats ice and that is america.

 

[Garcia Sea]

I am astonished by the Middle Eastern people's lack of understanding of the salami tactic.
They launch attacks just strong enough to make the enemy hesitate to wage full-scale war, then immediately cease fire, aiming to create a fait accompli.
This is a standard tactic used by Western countries when invading.
Iran fell into this trap. Even after Soleimani was assassinated, even after Haniyeh was assassinated, even after all its nuclear facilities were destroyed, it did not retaliate.
As a result, large-scale bombing across the entire country is imminent.
If Iran flees again without retaliating this time, it will surely become like Syria or Lebanon.
Israel and the US will then be free to fly over Iran anytime, dropping bombs wherever they please.
The people of the Middle East are far too ignorant of Western diplomatic strategy.
I repeat, you must never agree to a ceasefire.
It will turn your country into a hell like Libya, Syria, or Gaza.