Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

If they want war then Iran should send 1 carrier sinking to the bottom of the ocean with Hypersonics. Show Trump that he won't have his way all the time, and humble him very dearly. These self-important scum with delusions of grandeur needs to suffer a beatdown before they get a reality check.
Thats the problem. If they had done this from the beginning, we wouldn't have been here today. They pushed and pushed Irans red lines and Iran failed to respond in a meaningful way. I think it's too late now. How can Iran fight US, Israel and NATO on its own without any help from the outside, while also fighting for survival inside?
 
Netanyahu didnt approve Trumps attack plans. He wants full fragmentation of Iran.

The first step is to cripple all offensive capabilities and turn Iran into a war torn country with partial collapse of security forces. Thats why they involved NATO. To bomb and destroy as much as possible. Irans AD network isnt working, so they can come and bomb as they like. By taking out the BMs, they wont have to worry about any retaliation. They will bomb all infrastructure of security forces to make it easier to ship in more arms.

They already have thousands of armed agents inside as we've witnessed the past weeks. Second step is to continue arming them with heavier weapons and recruit more agents. Separatist movements, terror groups and other opportunists will take advantage of the situation. Some of the security forces will defect.

Third step is to create civil war by supporting multiple factions, provide arms and logistics to these and have them all fight IRGC, Army and kill each other. The west will provide air cover and continue to bomb IRGC and Army. Factions will take over territory and create safe zones, declare independence. After a couple years of civil war we will have a fragmented Iran with multiple small failed estates.
Iran will burn down all energy infrastructure in Persian gulf end send millions of refugees to Europe. Thousands of terrorists inside Iran will be hanged/executed en the war will become regional, the Houthis and Iraqi allies will join and attack all regional assets related to West.
 
Netanyahu didnt approve Trumps attack plans. He wants full fragmentation of Iran.

The first step is to cripple all offensive capabilities and turn Iran into a war torn country with partial collapse of security forces. Thats why they involved NATO. To bomb and destroy as much as possible. Irans AD network isnt working, so they can come and bomb as they like. By taking out the BMs, they wont have to worry about any retaliation. They will bomb all infrastructure of security forces to make it easier to ship in more arms.

They already have thousands of armed agents inside as we've witnessed the past weeks. Second step is to continue arming them with heavier weapons and recruit more agents. Separatist movements, terror groups and other opportunists will take advantage of the situation. Some of the security forces will defect.

Third step is to create civil war by supporting multiple factions, provide arms and logistics to these and have them all fight IRGC, Army and kill each other. The west will provide air cover and continue to bomb IRGC and Army. Factions will take over territory and create safe zones, declare independence. After a couple years of civil war we will have a fragmented Iran with multiple small failed estates.
Then they mistaken Iran with the Iraq. This will be a bloody war. Iranians are not like Iraqis.. Mark my word end of this war will bring the end of superpower...
 
I'm still surprised Iranian security and intelligence agencies are very very efficient how they are not able to figure it out yet
 
Iran will burn down all energy infrastructure in Persian gulf
When? After which red line is crossed? Why would this be any different to any other red lines Iran failed to respond to? And what purpose would that even serve? The enemy isn't backing down just because Iran destroyed some energy infrastructure
send millions of refugees to Europe
How? The borders are closed.
Thousands of terrorists inside Iran will be hanged/executed
For how long? They will continue to arm terrorists and fly daily sorties over Iran bombing all IRGC and army positions.
the Houthis and Iraqi allies will join and attack all regional assets related to West.
And then what?
 
They creating same method like Syria. It is very familiar
Its recycling the "Saddam used WMD's against his own people" line. So much of the propaganda is being repurposed from Syria, Iraq and Palestine. It's a sign who is behind it all.
 
When? After which red line is crossed? Why would this be any different to any other red lines Iran failed to respond to? And what purpose would that even serve? The enemy isn't backing down just because Iran destroyed some energy infrastructure

How? The borders are closed.

For how long? They will continue to arm terrorists and fly daily sorties over Iran bombing all IRGC and army positions.

And then what?
Fight till they leave, like Afghanistan. That's it. Or become like Syria.
 
One would hope so. Pakistan has a vested interest in reduced tension between Iran and its Arab and Turkic neighbors. The Saudi-Iran rapprochement greatly improved our relations with Iran e g. We ultimately want a stable Iran and Middle East.

Good news !!! Now let's deeply clean the zone before continuing any other project...
 
Ive read reports about chemical weapons being used against rioters from at least 10 different sources. I think they are building up narrative for long term war/invasion. As I said, the goal is to cause a civil war and fragment Iran.





It's the same script as for Syria if you look well :

- Armed "rioters" breaking down civilian infrastructure & attacking people
- Orchestrated "chemical" (or lookalike) attack against civilians
 
The way this world is rising up against Israel, that day is not too far when they will all move towards israel, but guess what, they will pay a heavy price, with 10 of millions loosing their lives, because of nukes used on them by israelis with impunity.
 
The way this world is rising up against Israel, that day is not too far when they will all move towards israel, but guess what, they will pay a heavy price, with 10 of millions loosing their lives, because of nukes used on them by israelis with impunity.
Chemotherapy is costly, but necessary.

Choose your fate, fight it and suffer with a chance of success OR accept your fate and die anyway.

One option is hopeless, the other is not.
 
Fight till they leave, like Afghanistan. That's it. Or become like Syria.
Afghanistan does not have oil and gas. Afghanistan does not have dozens of separatist movements inside. You cant compare Irans situation to that of Afghanistan. But still, becoming Afghanistan is not exactly a victory.
 
It's the same script as for Syria if you look well :

- Armed "rioters" breaking down civilian infrastructure & attacking people
- Orchestrated "chemical" (or lookalike) attack against civilians
It is. Even Protesters shooting other protesters to blame security forces is straight out of Syria.
 
Does Iran have the ability to target an aircraft carrier? With ballistic middle hypersonic vehicle's?

Iran needs to bag something significant. Hitting empty airfields doesn’t do it anymore.


All Iran needs to do is just knock it out of the fight. Put a hole in the runway. Stopping its ability to launch aircraft. Sinking it, would mean American going full war.
 
If they want war then Iran should send 1 carrier sinking to the bottom of the ocean with Hypersonics. Show Trump that he won't have his way all the time, and humble him very dearly. These self-important scum with delusions of grandeur needs to suffer a beatdown before they get a reality check.

Well you can then kiss every exposed critical infrastructure in Iran bye bye to make up for a multibillion loss by the US. Every power plant, shipping port, oil terminal, oil processing facility, etc turning Iran into Afghanistan.

You can claim this&that about the US but wrecking everything in Iran is not on the list…unless provoked.
 
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