Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hussain0216]

This!
Facing the whirlwind one forgets the biggest tool to get you in line is to disarm you before firing a single shot.
The talking heads at the UN... ones working to create a pretext and a context. As illegitimate as it may be... put the onus on the victim to disprove the allegations...(weapons inspectors...)
Or, move forces in the region and soften targets... gauge response... light up the radars as in drill... movement of troops and materiel... finding weaknesses in both armor and men...

The build-up is indeed a flex and therefore must be matched in words and deeds on its implications. Iran should not mince words in its policy and intent... living no room for ambiguity. That it will assumes any and all build-up as threat to its sovereignty, life, liberty and prosperity of the region at large. Establish redundancies to absorb the first, second, third, tenth or the one hundredth salvo...

This is for TV and for audiences a spectacle...(shock and awe)
sustained pain in response to disrupt it's onscreen production value makes everyone start second guessing themselves. As, Tyson says, "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face!"

Orange clown is no fan of America, has no authority to wage a war and lacks casus belli for a legitimate case both domestically and internationally... once committing an "act of war", his aim would be to immediately curb its impact and implications.

Iran immediately needs to go into build up mode

Declare exercises and start moving assets in preparation openly


Offence is the best form of defence



Either the U.S and lackeys believe that they will be able to defend against all these Iranian missiles or they are making a mistake

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Offence is the best form of defence

Offense is indeed the best form of defense... which is where you draw lines in the sand... implicate build-up as direct threat of violence that has been used with impunity and needs no further corroboration.

Orange clown presents his first term as one where he didn't start a war... Yet, He did! He killed Suleimani, a top official on state business, openly and brazenly. It cascaded into a trap of weakness that kept emboldening and expanding the envelope... to a point where once in the guise of talks, a decapitation strike was attempted and later by squeezing the financial muscles and openly calling for an insurrection...! Where clown is orchestrating and directing the saboteurs to take over state buildings a la January 06th. The aim is to commit a state collapse under the threshold of an unpopular full on war. An appetite of which lacks everywhere but zion... one with a ticking clock... tick tock tick tock!

 

[mangekyo]

Initially, the United States considered acting alone against Iran. However, they are now including NATO. This shift is interesting, suggesting that both Israel and the US were unable to effectively handle Iran together and are now bringing whole bully pack into the equation.

Netanyahu didnt approve Trumps attack plans. He wants full fragmentation of Iran.

The first step is to cripple all offensive capabilities and turn Iran into a war torn country with partial collapse of security forces. Thats why they involved NATO. To bomb and destroy as much as possible. Irans AD network isnt working, so they can come and bomb as they like. By taking out the BMs, they wont have to worry about any retaliation. They will bomb all infrastructure of security forces to make it easier to ship in more arms.

They already have thousands of armed agents inside as we've witnessed the past weeks. Second step is to continue arming them with heavier weapons and recruit more agents. Separatist movements, terror groups and other opportunists will take advantage of the situation. Some of the security forces will defect.

Third step is to create civil war by supporting multiple factions, provide arms and logistics to these and have them all fight IRGC, Army and kill each other. The west will provide air cover and continue to bomb IRGC and Army. Factions will take over territory and create safe zones, declare independence. After a couple years of civil war we will have a fragmented Iran with multiple small failed estates.

 

[StrategicBear]

If they want war then Iran should send 1 carrier sinking to the bottom of the ocean with Hypersonics. Show Trump that he won't have his way all the time, and humble him very dearly. These self-important scum with delusions of grandeur needs to suffer a beatdown before they get a reality check.

 

[mangekyo]

If they want war then Iran should send 1 carrier sinking to the bottom of the ocean with Hypersonics. Show Trump that he won't have his way all the time, and humble him very dearly. These self-important scum with delusions of grandeur needs to suffer a beatdown before they get a reality check.

Thats the problem. If they had done this from the beginning, we wouldn't have been here today. They pushed and pushed Irans red lines and Iran failed to respond in a meaningful way. I think it's too late now. How can Iran fight US, Israel and NATO on its own without any help from the outside, while also fighting for survival inside?

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Netanyahu didnt approve Trumps attack plans. He wants full fragmentation of Iran.

The first step is to cripple all offensive capabilities and turn Iran into a war torn country with partial collapse of security forces. Thats why they involved NATO. To bomb and destroy as much as possible. Irans AD network isnt working, so they can come and bomb as they like. By taking out the BMs, they wont have to worry about any retaliation. They will bomb all infrastructure of security forces to make it easier to ship in more arms.

They already have thousands of armed agents inside as we've witnessed the past weeks. Second step is to continue arming them with heavier weapons and recruit more agents. Separatist movements, terror groups and other opportunists will take advantage of the situation. Some of the security forces will defect.

Third step is to create civil war by supporting multiple factions, provide arms and logistics to these and have them all fight IRGC, Army and kill each other. The west will provide air cover and continue to bomb IRGC and Army. Factions will take over territory and create safe zones, declare independence. After a couple years of civil war we will have a fragmented Iran with multiple small failed estates.

Iran will burn down all energy infrastructure in Persian gulf end send millions of refugees to Europe. Thousands of terrorists inside Iran will be hanged/executed en the war will become regional, the Houthis and Iraqi allies will join and attack all regional assets related to West.

 

[Cash gk]

Netanyahu didnt approve Trumps attack plans. He wants full fragmentation of Iran.

The first step is to cripple all offensive capabilities and turn Iran into a war torn country with partial collapse of security forces. Thats why they involved NATO. To bomb and destroy as much as possible. Irans AD network isnt working, so they can come and bomb as they like. By taking out the BMs, they wont have to worry about any retaliation. They will bomb all infrastructure of security forces to make it easier to ship in more arms.

They already have thousands of armed agents inside as we've witnessed the past weeks. Second step is to continue arming them with heavier weapons and recruit more agents. Separatist movements, terror groups and other opportunists will take advantage of the situation. Some of the security forces will defect.

Third step is to create civil war by supporting multiple factions, provide arms and logistics to these and have them all fight IRGC, Army and kill each other. The west will provide air cover and continue to bomb IRGC and Army. Factions will take over territory and create safe zones, declare independence. After a couple years of civil war we will have a fragmented Iran with multiple small failed estates.

Then they mistaken Iran with the Iraq. This will be a bloody war. Iranians are not like Iraqis.. Mark my word end of this war will bring the end of superpower...

 

[Cash gk]

I'm still surprised Iranian security and intelligence agencies are very very efficient how they are not able to figure it out yet

 

[mangekyo]

Iran will burn down all energy infrastructure in Persian gulf

When? After which red line is crossed? Why would this be any different to any other red lines Iran failed to respond to? And what purpose would that even serve? The enemy isn't backing down just because Iran destroyed some energy infrastructure

send millions of refugees to Europe

How? The borders are closed.

Thousands of terrorists inside Iran will be hanged/executed

For how long? They will continue to arm terrorists and fly daily sorties over Iran bombing all IRGC and army positions.

the Houthis and Iraqi allies will join and attack all regional assets related to West.

And then what?

 

[Watandar]

They creating same method like Syria. It is very familiar

Its recycling the "Saddam used WMD's against his own people" line. So much of the propaganda is being repurposed from Syria, Iraq and Palestine. It's a sign who is behind it all.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

When? After which red line is crossed? Why would this be any different to any other red lines Iran failed to respond to? And what purpose would that even serve? The enemy isn't backing down just because Iran destroyed some energy infrastructure

How? The borders are closed.

For how long? They will continue to arm terrorists and fly daily sorties over Iran bombing all IRGC and army positions.

And then what?

Fight till they leave, like Afghanistan. That's it. Or become like Syria.

 

[Arash]

One would hope so. Pakistan has a vested interest in reduced tension between Iran and its Arab and Turkic neighbors. The Saudi-Iran rapprochement greatly improved our relations with Iran e g. We ultimately want a stable Iran and Middle East.

Thread 'India liquidates Chabahar stakes over Trump’s tariff threat'

Jan 16, 2026

India liquidates Chabahar stakes over Trump’s tariff threat​

Our Correspondent
Published January 16, 2026



NEW DELHI: Responding to renewed US sanctions, India transferred approximately $120 million to Iran to fully liquidate its financial commitment for developing Chabahar port, a key gateway to landlocked Afghanistan, The Economic Times said on Friday.

A government source stated that India now has “no liability” in its commitment and that Iran is free to use the funds independently.

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Good news !!! Now let's deeply clean the zone before continuing any other project...

 

[Arash]

Ive read reports about chemical weapons being used against rioters from at least 10 different sources. I think they are building up narrative for long term war/invasion. As I said, the goal is to cause a civil war and fragment Iran.

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It's the same script as for Syria if you look well :

- Armed "rioters" breaking down civilian infrastructure & attacking people
- Orchestrated "chemical" (or lookalike) attack against civilians

 

[maverick]

The way this world is rising up against Israel, that day is not too far when they will all move towards israel, but guess what, they will pay a heavy price, with 10 of millions loosing their lives, because of nukes used on them by israelis with impunity.

 

[Liquidator]

The way this world is rising up against Israel, that day is not too far when they will all move towards israel, but guess what, they will pay a heavy price, with 10 of millions loosing their lives, because of nukes used on them by israelis with impunity.

Chemotherapy is costly, but necessary.

Choose your fate, fight it and suffer with a chance of success OR accept your fate and die anyway.

One option is hopeless, the other is not.