Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RocketLaw]

After 45 years of sanctions, assassinations, cyber attacks, and maximum pressure campaigns, Iran is still standing - more defiant, more capable, and more deeply integrated into Russian-Chinese alliance networks than ever before.

Colonel Thorne reveals how America's strategy of pressure and regime change has achieved the opposite of its goals, creating an Iranian civilization that sees total resistance as the only path to survival against existential threats.

Iran's asymmetric capabilities can now shut down 40% of global oil supplies through the Strait of Hormuz, activate proxy forces across multiple countries simultaneously, and conduct cyber warfare against critical infrastructure worldwide - making their resistance a global economic threat regardless of military outcomes.

The real danger isn't whether Iran will back down from American pressure (they won't), but how their refusal to surrender has transformed a regional issue into a test case for global power competition between the US, Russia, and China.

This strategic miscalculation has created conditions where Iranian defiance becomes Russian and Chinese success in challenging American hegemony, making compromise impossible because everything now represents a credibility test that affects global power relationships.

 

[Immortals]

IRI should switch very fast to a System like Russia, Multi-Party managed/guided democracy, hybrid regime.

Russia is built around Putin. Once he is gone no one can command the respect Putin has inside Russia today or the cohesiveness.

Iran should absolutely not emulate Russia. It’s an oligarchy with massive corruption up and down the leadership and chain of command.

Russia should never have struggled as much as it did in Ukraine if it was a healthy system with competent military officers.

 

[Beast89]

Arabs will be Arabs

 

[kastor ville]

After 45 years of sanctions, assassinations, cyber attacks, and maximum pressure campaigns, Iran is still standing - more defiant, more capable, and more deeply integrated into Russian-Chinese alliance networks than ever before.

Colonel Thorne reveals how America's strategy of pressure and regime change has achieved the opposite of its goals, creating an Iranian civilization that sees total resistance as the only path to survival against existential threats.

Iran's asymmetric capabilities can now shut down 40% of global oil supplies through the Strait of Hormuz, activate proxy forces across multiple countries simultaneously, and conduct cyber warfare against critical infrastructure worldwide - making their resistance a global economic threat regardless of military outcomes.

The real danger isn't whether Iran will back down from American pressure (they won't), but how their refusal to surrender has transformed a regional issue into a test case for global power competition between the US, Russia, and China.

This strategic miscalculation has created conditions where Iranian defiance becomes Russian and Chinese success in challenging American hegemony, making compromise impossible because everything now represents a credibility test that affects global power relationship

But I believe this is AI...... I tried looking up Colonel Thorne. There is no such person. And if you look at the video, it does look like AI. Don't get me wrong what it said still rings true.

 

[kastor ville]

Breaking News Report: Senior Iranian diplomat at U.N. European Headquarters has defected and requested asylum in Switzerland, reports Iran International. Alireza Jeyrani Hokmabad has the rank of Minister at the Iranian UN Mission in Geneva.
Not shared or seen widely, so take at as unconfirmed.

 

[Kyussis]

Breaking News Report: Senior Iranian diplomat at U.N. European Headquarters has defected and requested asylum in Switzerland, reports Iran International. Alireza Jeyrani Hokmabad has the rank of Minister at the Iranian UN Mission in Geneva.
Not shared or seen widely, so take at as unconfirmed.

Also Khamenei is in Moscow!!!

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Also Khamenei is in Moscow!!!

Well during green movement some diplomats applied for asylum, so its not something new or extra ordinary if true, but it will mostly used for cheap psyops.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I think people thought that the threat of causing mass casualties to bases and oil fields would keep the U.S. from doing anything.

But I think the west began changing their calculations once Iran stopped responding to Israeli strikes in Syria. It culminated in the lack of response to Solemani assaination.

For 20 years no US president assassinated Solemani despite having multiple opportunities (Israel had a lock on him when he was with Imad in early 2000’s but only got approval to kill Imad. They also had a lock on his convoy in Iraq years later). But the thinking was killing Solemani would start a war. Thus he was untouchable.

When Trump came in and threw risk out the window and acted like a brute then his actions actually changed how the West perceived Iran. And suddenly the threats of retaliation and mass destruction were just rhetoric and they kept pushing the envelope.

So it’s hard to believe how Iran who has avoided any large scale confrontation for 30+ years is suddenly going to adopt an Israeli mentality of scorched earth.

The Khomeini clan, the Rafsanjani clan, the Larijani clan, the Khamenai clan, the Qalibaf clan, etc etc mostly care about power retention and thriving in their sandbox. The ones who carried the revolutionary spirit died in Syria and Lebanon and Iraq and Yemen the last 25 years.

Exactly! Iran deconstructed its own deterrence... did not appreciate the predicament... feigned a play and got played instead.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Democracy isn't all that great

People are idiots.
Many don't understand national interests or complicated issues

Worst still they are easily manipulated to vote for issues that are unimportant or for individuals who are sold out

Even in the west democracy is becoming chaotic, see MAGA, Brexit, and the plethora of right wing populist parties in Europe

The orange clown is exhibit A against popularity contest... another episode of American idol with AIPAC filling panel of judges.
Exhibit A against merit, rule of law, decency, truth, trust and dare I say evolution! There you go Darwin... the new species is self inflicted orange! Adamant and degenerate!

 

[Eşbah]

So, the leadership knows what's coming. Strictly from Iran's POV: Why not fire the first bullet in that case?

I just don't understand this restraint.

Wouldn't you take action first if someone armed with a gun is charging at you, fully aware that they intend to kill you?

IRI is either ready to 'absorb' the attack and move on or they are genuinely scared of the US.

Either way, doing nothing and waiting for the missiles to hit them can't be the answer. Deterrence must be re-established.

 

[ToddE]

So, the leadership knows what's coming. Strictly from Iran's POV: Why not fire the first bullet in that case?

I just don't understand this restraint.

Wouldn't you take action first if someone armed with a gun is charging at you, fully aware that they intend to kill you?

IRI is either ready to 'absorb' the attack and move on or they are genuinely scared of the US.

Either way, doing nothing and waiting for the missiles to hit them can't be the answer. Deterrence must be re-established.

siz bilirsinizmi ki IRGC/sepah ve reformist hokumat etirazlari bashlatmagh uchun pulu gizlaedib ... teghreben 1110-115 Billion USD ? ... rahbarliq ise yalniz qalmishdir

 

[Eşbah]

siz bilirsinizmi ki IRGC/sepah ve reformist hokumat etirazlari bashlatmagh uchun pulu gizlaedib ... teghreben 1110-115 Billion USD ? ... rahbarliq ise yalniz qalmishdir

It's hard to believe. You can't just divert that amount of money from the system without literally causing the collapse of the state infrastructure.

 

[ToddE]

It's hard to believe. You can't just divert that amount of money from the system without literally causing the collapse of the state infrastructure.

So where is the money ?

https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...s-and-discussion.14927/page-3854#post-1103379

https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...s-and-discussion.14927/page-3869#post-1104886

 

[SolarWarden]

So, the leadership knows what's coming. Strictly from Iran's POV: Why not fire the first bullet in that case?

I just don't understand this restraint.

Wouldn't you take action first if someone armed with a gun is charging at you, fully aware that they intend to kill you?

IRI is either ready to 'absorb' the attack and move on or they are genuinely scared of the US.

Either way, doing nothing and waiting for the missiles to hit them can't be the answer. Deterrence must be re-established.

In my opinion I think they think striking first would give the US the excuse to take off the gloves. I know it's weird thinking.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Everyone respects Yemen for its aggressive preemptive strikes, fearlessly firing missiles at U.S. aircraft carriers, and agrees to ceasefire.
Meanwhile, missiles rain down relentlessly on Iran, which remains perpetually passive.
Sadly, the mullahs lack the wisdom to learn from this.