Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

Israel is only tolerating Turkish expansionism because they are countering AoR and doing Israel’s dirty work on the ground. Soon all these ISIS groups Turkey have turned its proxies to protect Israel will become a potential headache for Zion. It doesn’t matter that Turkey is in NATO and that Israel can easily control Turkey by manipulating Turkish inflation like they did recently. Israel does not allow any regional competitors. Current Turkish leadership is pro-Israel. But Turkish people are ultra nationalistic, there is no guarantee the future leadership will be pro-israel.

Israel does not have allies if you read their doctrine. They see groups that are useful for them for now. A friend today can become a potential threat in future to them. Its very easy to control Turkey for them considering Turkey is under 550 Billion USD western debt (almost half of total GDP) thanks to Erdogan. Creditors can create inflation in Turkey the size of Tsunami if they want, which happened last time when Lira fell to ground. They dont have any resource to multiply cash on. There is a reason we are not seeing any strategic level deterrence in Turkish doctrine under Erdogan even with Israeli rabid dog like behavior towards Arabs just next door to Turkey. Erdogan's appeasement moves towards Israel will one day haunt Turkish nation who usually are western loving secular ethnonationalists (Like Shahi Iran).

Now is the perfect time for an IRGC Coup. Vast majority of Iranians will support it if Artesh is onboard. There will be no civil war. Best strategy forward is to become secular and end all hostilities with Israel as long as they stay away from Iraq. There is no alternative path forward unless IRI wants to sacrifice Iran for the sake of protecting an ummah that secretly (many even openly) wishes for its death.

@Emirzad what’s your take on this?

Artesh has no real brain of its own anymore. They are controlled through MODAFL by IRGC. Also in coup, the group that has the most influence and cash wins. IRGC currently officially has 30-40% of industrial economy in their hand. If the budget has been increased to Khamenei's order then they may even be having 60-70% of the 30-40 Billion USD. They control 1000+ tanker fleet. Apparently they also siphoned off the 120 Billion USD export revenues. Thy solely fought the war. If coup is necessary, they are well positioned to do so.

Islamic identity needs to be eradicated from Iran at state level atleast IMO because it will keep us tangled in Middle Eastern problems. Safavis were mad that they chose this. Jews can do same in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria what they did in Palestine for all I care. Its an intrasemite problem. We have lost thousand people and 500+ Billion USD on this meanignless fight with Israel and US but I say no more. People forget, Iranian empires during clashes with Russians and Ottomans always had European allies. Iranophilia started in europe because of this.

 

[kastor ville]

is it going to be an attack on Iran, or, its just muscle-flexing by the americans for the Arabs ?? Remains to be seen.

Heads up Iran!!!
This guy is a super connected Zio in the US......I'd take him at his word. His wife is a CNN anchor, she shills for Israel, every time she's on TV.
These fking people....they own the US. We talk how the US is the hedgemon, but in reality the US is an occupied country.

 

[Cateusm]

Iran should make a public notification that any country that hosts any USA military assets, allows their bases on their land to be used, or even air to air refuellers that are used to “help” the USA is a legitimate military target, even after American hostilities end.

Draw a line in the sand as to say that princes in glass towers are not safe if they conspire with Irans enemies.

It will help slow down the logistics effort if some of these princes start to rethink and withdraw some of their support if they are going to get attacked in response to their logistics support.

Iranian officials, analysts have been repeating that for years. All the countries in Western Asia are aware of this. There are circulating information that a number of countries refused the attack on Iran last week and the use of their Air Space, Land or Sea for the attack. The list includes Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq etc. Ability to stop US of using their territory is a different matter. UAE was not part of the list and received a harsh direct threat from IRGC. Many analysts said this but there is no confirmation.

As Iran never launched an aggression first against these countries and as Israel openly declared the Greater Israel Project which includes part of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, the mentality has shifted that Iran is no longer the top threat. However, never trust these *** as they shift with whoever has the power.

Jordan is a helpless case. They are ruled by agents and still will be servants. They rely on others aid for salaries. Their military and intelligence apparatus belongs to US and serves both US and Israel.

 

[Khansaheeb]

I have my reasons for disliking him that are unrelated to Iran, yet his sentiment here is genuine. The pro-government Turkish television channels and newspapers are consistently covering the West's participation in the Iranian protests. Telling their viewers that foreign agents are undermining these protests.

Another aspect that frequently goes unnoticed is that Turkish Islamists, religious parties, or Conservatives typically hold a pro-IRI stance, which is rather unusual in the Middle East. Necmettin Erbakan, the individual who brought Erdoğan into the political arena, was known for his support of Iran. Eventually, Erdoğan distanced himself from him, similar to how Al Sharaa separated from Al Qaida.

Secondly, he went through something similar which is why our government reacts very allergic to mass protests:

Gezi Park protests - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He fears that any uprising in Iran could lead to new protests in Turkey. Happened during Arab Spring.

Right now, majority of Turks are absolutely against US intervention in Iran. That is the public opinion.

Iran should join the security alliance and help kick the Nazis out, otherwise it will be mayhem for another 100 years.

 

[mangekyo]

Trump order

is it going to be an attack on Iran, or, its just muscle-flexing by the americans for the Arabs ?? Remains to be seen.

They’ve flown dozens of tankers across the world. Emptied bases. Sent aircraft carriers. B2s. AD systems. Dozens of cargo planes loaded with God knows what. I don’t know the cost, but I am certain they aren’t spending all this money just for flexing.

 

[maxpane]

it will take time. still 10 days till 31st jan

 

[Winthorpe]

it will take time. still 10 days till 31st jan

Plus they are actually nervous and scared unlike previous conflagorations. This is not going to be a walk in the park and they know it. They are being dragged into a war they are not prepared for.

 

[hasn2009]

I feel the attack is more likely than no-attack, see Netanyahu and co currently are not on media right now trying to persuade US to attack Iran, which means they have been promised something already, if US really had shelved the plan to attack, we would be seeing Netanyahu and other zionists on media counting the benefits of attacking Iran but they are not doing it right now, just the silence and silent buildup of arms and equipment in M.E

 

[Arash]

Heads up Iran!!!
This guy is a super connected Zio in the US......I'd take him at his word. His wife is a CNN anchor, she shills for Israel, every time she's on TV.
These fking people....they own the US. We talk how the US is the hedgemon, but in reality the US is an occupied country.

is it going to be an attack on Iran, or, its just muscle-flexing by the americans for the Arabs ?? Remains to be seen.

The fact that Bibi recently said IL is ready for iranian strikes indicates IMHO that there will be an attack

Now the u.s. buildup is mostly aimed at protecting IL

so the attack might come from IL or be limited u.s strikes to decapitate the head of state ( Pezeshkian ????? ROFL)

 

[Arash]

Rasheeda Rustami doctor Israeli agent
We had a female doctor too who is secured abroad and people think she is suffering..
Aafia siddique..
Many nations don't or don't want want to realize how mossad worksView attachment 173765

Could not care less............

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

Could not care less............

UNTIL it comes to BITE your azzz ....
Anyways everything is irrelevant at this point because things are merky NO ONE is trusting NO ONE in intelligence community... Things are blurry and decisions are being made as necessary according to situations...rather than pre planned...
All those who planned are nervous wreck...
Reminds me an ayat from Almighty Creator
They plan and Allah plans and indeed Allah is the best planner..

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

can anybody post status of pizza orders for this week!

 

[Arash]

UNTIL it comes to BITE your azzz ....
Anyways everything is irrelevant at this point because things are merky NO ONE is trusting NO ONE in intelligence community... Things are blurry and decisions are being made as necessary according to situations...rather than pre planned...
All those who planned are nervous wreck...
Reminds me an ayat from Almighty Creator
They plan and Allah plans and indeed Allah is the best planner..

I said could not care less for the btch that was executed in Iran.... she deserved it. Point.

 

[mangekyo]

 

[Eşbah]