Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

You've not seen what we're capable of.

let's stay on topic and avoid provocations please (this goes to everyone)

 

[Shags101]

Well, he is a MAGA supporter like Tucker Carlson, and don't want the US to waste so much energy for the sake of Israel.

The first priority for the MAGA supporters is to contain China's rise, and everything else is secondary.

Trump initially didn't want to focus on Iran either, but he is now risking to get bloodbathed in the incoming midterm, and now he needs to plead for Israel's help to let him to win the midterm.

Yeah I know he’s on the right but still like the dude mostly because he finds me funny at times and he has mostly balanced views on matters when it comes to what’s going on I’d rather read his posts than highly exaggerated views of people who aren’t educated in real life of what war is so he may lean to the right doesn’t make his views any less right or wrong but let’s move on or do I need to bring @Solomon2 into the mix of this and show you an actual troll

 

[925boy]

it is necessary to restore deterrence, since Iranian performance in the last round clearly was not good enough to establish prolonged deterrence

If Iranian performance in the last war was not good, then why foes US need its entire military for a follow up strike on Iran while israel stays out due to ballistic trauma it received in the last war? Obviously US knows it did not enough damage to Iran in the last war.

 

[Persian Gulf]

If Iranian performance in the last war was not good, then why foes US need its entire military for a follow up strike on Iran while israel stays out due to ballistic trauma it received in the last war? Obviously US knows it did not enough damage to Iran in the last war.

you do not have a good understanding of the size of the US military if you think sending 1 out of 11 carrier strike groups to the Arabian Sea is their "entire military"

 

[925boy]

What does Russia have in Iran that is crucial to Russia?

INSTC route,access to warm and strategic waters(for oil swap) and ammunition supplies for its war against Ukraine?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Well, he is a MAGA supporter like Tucker Carlson, and don't want the US to waste so much energy for the sake of Israel.

The first priority for the MAGA supporters is to contain China's rise, and everything else is secondary.

Trump initially didn't want to focus on Iran either, but he is now risking to get bloodbathed in the incoming midterm, and now he needs to plead for Israel's help to let him to win the midterm.

I wonder what happens to Trump's poll ratings when US soldiers start getting killed (so far avoided by Iran, intentionally, but if there is an existential threat, such moderation is not going to continue) and gas prices go through the roof when Iran retaliates against the US' threatened blockade of Iranian ships in the Persian Gulf?

and what happens when this continues for weeks and months on end and the US loses destroyers? there are five destroyers in the Persian Gulf, these are effectively sitting ducks, even if you think Iran's can't reach the CSG 700km away.

Israel must have some very damaging stuff on Trump, because this is almost suicide by him and doesn't align with his historical positions at all.

 

[925boy]

you do not have a good understanding of the size of the US military if you think sending 1 out of 11 carrier strike groups to the Arabian Sea is their "entire military"

Well if thats all US is sending to the Arabain gulf, then I will go ahead and say that 1 AC is JUST NOT ENOUGH to subdue Iran,especially from the ground and Iran fighting US like its existence depends on it.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I wonder if we will see anti-ship version of Qasem-Basir ballistic missile (or Zolfaqar Basir), guided to general direction of US CSG target by forward drones

maybe the long awaited Shahed-147 can finally make its debut

 

[Persian Gulf]

Well if thats all US is sending to the Arabain gulf, then I will go ahead and say that 1 AC is JUST NOT ENOUGH to subdue Iran,especially from the ground and Iran fighting US like its existence depends on it.

Persian Gulf *

 

[Persian Gulf]

Shahed-147 HALE drone with SAR payload for surveillance



Zolfaqar Basir ASBM (700km range ASBM with EO seeker)



Qasem Basir MRBM (1200km range variant of Haj Qasem MRBM with EO seeker, suitable for use in anti ship role)

surveillance drones can send missiles to general location of the target ship at 700-1000km range, and the EO seeker targets the ship during terminal stage

 

[Watandar]

Weren't there American ships in July of last year as well in the Persian Gulf ? Did they ever launch anything ?

Trump is now saying Iran cannot have "NUCLEAR". That's the old script from July where the Navy was a distraction while the B2's were used. I find it curious the carrier group is off Oman. All these movements of aircrafts like C130J or whatever we have been observing could be part of the subterfuge. It's possible Trump uses B2 to attack some more nuke related sites and calls it a day.

P.S. I know I come up with a new scenarios every single day lol.

 

[lightning f57]

If the US attacks, I dont think its a slam dunk like most are feeling then it will be a large air attack to take out as much Irans offensive capability as possible. They will target ships, ports, airfields, missile sites, IRGC bases it will be total war. The smallest indication of this attack Iran has to unleash everything it has.

Trumpy only understands the language of strength and bravery.

 

[kastor ville]

Neither Iranobserver or Visegrad24 are reliable .......Visegrad24 is a zio account.

 

[kubotabx23]

Weren't there American ships in July of last year as well in the Persian Gulf ? Did they ever launch anything ?

Trump is now saying Iran cannot have "NUCLEAR". That's the old script from July where the Navy was a distraction while the B2's were used. I find it curious the carrier group is off Oman. All these movements of aircrafts like C130J or whatever we have been observing could be part of the subterfuge. It's possible Trump uses B2 to attack some more nuke related sites and calls it a day.

P.S. I know I come up with a new scenarios every single day lol.

There were two positioned near the Persian Gulf on the Arabian Sea - the USS Nimitz and USS Carl Vinson. I'm sure they participated in Operation Midnight Hammer in carrier operations for any fighter jets utilized.

Yemen, Iran and Venezuela have all had carriers as a common denominator in terms of U.S aggression (strikes) - a big reason why I'm inclined to believe that the U.S will attack Iran again.

 

[925boy]

and Azerbaijan put out a statement today that no one can use its territory to attack Iran

1. Iranian govt officials said that AZ helped israel strike Iran during the 12 day war, so AZ cant be trusted.

2. All countries around Iran that will help US and israel strike Iran are saying this same crap, good examples are Qatar and UAE.

If AZ crosses Iran this time, Iran will hit them, no doubt about it