Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ChineseTiger1986]

COVID-19 escaped a well known Wuhan lab that was studying the coronavirus family.

So tell me again how US used CV-19 on iran and china?

Sounds like propaganda to cover up Chinese disregard at following properly protocols.

Because people like you have convinced the Chinese people that Iran was/is/will never be a China-friendly country.

You should capitulate to the US, and stop pretending that you are the only hero in the world to resist the US imperialism.

 

[wangdefa]

The Soviet Union is dead over 3 decades, and Russia can't even win the Ukrainian war without China.

Only China can provide the full supply chain for Russia to assemble million of drones and unlimited supply of legacy chips.

You guys keep bashing here, but even the MAGA propagandists have confirmed that China is mobilize all cargo planes to assist Iran for the incoming invasion.




Yep, just keep bashing China, meanwhile China has to bypass all sanctions to come for rescue, just like Huawei has done last time.

I'm tired of this pointless argument. I don't care what they think. Their only support is on the internet. Why do you care?
It's pointless for you to argue with them, they'll only ask for help and moral demands, and you can't convince them on their side.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Because their policy is : Fight first and think about the consequences later.

Fortune favors the bold, and sometimes it is China's own cowardice in war that will cost China a lot.

So China should fight directly the US on behalf of those countries who don't even like us?

China has its own moral principles to support Iran, but sometimes don't ask too much from us.

 

[Mehdipersian]

The Soviet Union is dead over 3 decades, and Russia can't even win the Ukrainian war without China.

Only China can provide the full supply chain for Russia to assemble million of drones and unlimited supply of legacy chips.

You guys can keep whining how China is not directly fighting the US on your behalf, but even the MAGA propagandists have confirmed that China is mobilizing a lot of cargo planes to assist Iran for the incoming invasion.




Yep, just keep bashing China, meanwhile China has to bypass all sanctions to come for rescue, just like Huawei has done last time.

We don't need you to fight for us. I just stated a fact that you would rather not accept. North Korea has given more military aid to Russia than China. These things you said were just economic opportunities for Chinese companies in the war and have nothing to do with China's military policies.

 

[Immortals]

previously it thought it could play a game of trading blows but now it realises its existence is at stake, so it will no longer play by old rules, and it knows it needs to give everything it has to have any chance of establishing some form of deterrence

or as you say we are being too optimistic with this new copium and IRI will be surprised again

Probably the best analysis by Ali Vaez. Too bad most fanboys here will ignore it.

 

[ety]

I'm thinking China (PLAN)is about a decade away from this capability.

I wonder why Iran wouldn't allow China to have a base eg. Chabahar in exchange for more material support.

Iran bet on the wrong horse (India).

I don't think Iranians would allow China or any other country to have a military base in their lands. Iran's foremost strategic partners are Russia and India, China comes only after and is more about economic affairs. Besides, China at present time doesn't really need military bases in the Mideast as Chinese navy doesn't patrol in the water surrounding the region.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I'm tired of this pointless argument. I don't care what they think. Their only support is on the internet. Why do you care?

China is willing to help, but China is coward for not directly fighting the US to protect Iran.

Yet some Iranians here think what we were responsible for intoxicating Iran with the Covid-19.

However, even most Chinese are questioning about the worthiness of helping Iran, the Chinese government is still willing to make the commitment for Iran.

Because they have been scored by Trump on Venezuela, and they don't want to lose more face on Iran.

 

[wangdefa]

We don't need you to fight for us. I just stated a fact that you would rather not accept. North Korea has given more military aid to Russia than China. These things you said were just economic opportunities for Chinese companies in the war and have nothing to do with China's military policies.

Since you mentioned North Korea, Russia has military agreements with both Iran and North Korea, why is it only North Korea that helps Russia under the military treaty? What is Iran's role in the deal?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Not to de-rail the thread. But PLAN really can't do much to USN in West Asia at this time.
Chinese nuclear submarines are far inferior to US subs. New Type 93B just coming online and it will take time to achieve full operational capbility. Second batch of Type 55 not commissioned yet. Type 52D are rolling out but maybe number around 30-35. The real capability boost will come when Type 004 is commisioned and if PLAN is able to churn out the 6 carriers that have been projected by 2035. Not to mention a more mature carrier aviation force. So until then China is limited in the support it can provide even it it wanted too. (Which it doesn't).

Iran is essentially on its own.

The US submarines can't even use the most high grade heavy rare earth from China, yet do you truly believe they are superior to the Chinese counterparts?

Instead of questioning China's capability, most questions lie with Iran itself.

 

[wangdefa]

China is willing to help, but China is coward for not directly fighting the US to protect Iran.

Yet some Iranians here think what we were responsible for intoxicating Iran with the Covid-19.

However, even most Chinese are questioning about the worthiness of helping Iran, the Chinese government is still willing to make the commitment for Iran.

Because they have been scored by Trump on Venezuela, and they don't want to lose more face on Iran.

Brother, it doesn't matter, just as we can't tell whether the other person is a native Iranian or an Iranian living in the West, we can't tell, and we don't care about the other person's opinion, it's meaningless.

 

[Avicenna]

The US submarines can't even use the most high grade heavy rare earth from China, yet do you truly believe they are superior to the Chinese counterparts?

Instead of questioning China's capability, most questions lie with Iran itself.

I agree Iran has really screwed things up for itself.

But yes, USN SSN/SSGN/SSBN are FAAAR more capable than Chinese ones.

What China may or maynot realize is that once Europe and West Asia have been taken care of....East Asia is next.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Since you mentioned North Korea, Russia has military agreements with both Iran and North Korea, why is it only North Korea that helps Russia under the military treaty? What is Iran's role in the deal?

We have provided a lot of assistance to Russia, from transferring experience in countering Western sanctions to economic and military cooperation. We also paid for our assistance to Russia.

What has China done besides trade and profiting from war?

 

[Immortals]

I asked you to back up your ridiculous claim below:

You should know that the Covid-19 was a bio attack on both China and Iran, yet you blame solely on us..

And you respond with this nonsense:

Because people like you have convinced the Chinese people that Iran was/is/will never be a China-friendly country.

And this:

You should capitulate to the US, and stop pretending that you are the only hero in the world to resist the US imperialism.

Once again, China goes in the history books as one of the only countries in history to be so grossly incompetent that they released a virus that caused a global pandemic.

And now instead of taking responsibility they try to say random shit like “you only blame us” . Yeah no shit China is blamed, the virus originated in Wuhan, a city that has a bio lab that coincidentally enough studies coronavirus family of viruses.

Who else should we blame? North Korea? India? Russia? The penguins in artic?Unbelievable.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I agree Iran has really screwed things up for itself.

But yes, USN SSN/SSGN/SSBN are FAAAR more capable than Chinese ones.

What China may or maynot realize is that once Europe and West Asia have been taken care of....East Asia is next.

The US SSGN are pretty much over 40 years old, and its reactor needs to be retired nor its metallic hull can sustain anymore.

Stop turning this thread into a China bashing one, and focusing Iran and its related topics.

 

[wangdefa]

We have provided a lot of assistance to Russia, from transferring experience in countering Western sanctions to economic and military cooperation. We also paid for our assistance to Russia.

What has China done besides trade and profiting from war?

I have not seen any assistance from Iran in the Russian military forum, and of course I will not believe Russia's unilateral statement. As for what the agreement between you is, including whether it includes sending troops to support, I do not think I can investigate.
As for the large amount of aid you said, I will remain silent, and it would be nice if the Russians came out to clarify.