Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Bharatah]

1000 times stronger how?

its been 20 years of economic rot

Friend, let's compare Iran 20 years ago with present-day Iran:

- 20 years ago, Iran did not possess hypersonic technology (today it does)
- 20 years ago, Iran did not possess ANY missiles capable of reaching American bases or Israeli territory (today it does)
- 20 years ago, Iran did not possess ANY drones (today it does)
- 20 years ago, Iran's nuclear program was only symbolic with minimal enrichment (today it does)
- 20 years ago, Iran did not have the technology to disable satellite points (today it does)
- 20 years ago, Hezbollah was just a small party in Lebanon (today it is the largest and most voted)
- 20 years ago, Houthis were "shopping mall security guards" in Yemen, today they govern the country
- 20 years ago, Iraq was dominated by the USA. Today it is controlled by Shiites aligned with Iranian ayatollahs

NOTE: 20 years ago, the USA has already considered a full-scale war with Iran very risky, imagine today... the one who wants to try to destroy Iran is the Zionist Jewish racial supremacist, but since he can't, he wants to use goyim like Trump and Biden to do the job, but Iran has reached a level of defense that even the USA can't handle.

To destroy Iran today, it would require all the troops together: Europe, Russia, China, the USA, Middle Eastern puppets + India, then Iran would be defeated and destroyed. Otherwise, forget it.

 

[hussain0216]

There are lots of separatist movements inside Iran. Multiple kurdish groups, Baluch groups, the Mossad agents who I don’t believe have been fully dismantled.

Turkey recently spoke about creating a buffer zone inside Iran if things come to that. The syrian government literally consists of old ISIS and Nusra members.

During the 12 day war, eyewitnesses reported about drones flying in from Azerbaijan. UAE is openly working with the Israelis. Saudi has spoken about Ahvaz before. They might claim they are neutral now, but the region is full of opportunists.

The goal wouldn’t be to invade Iran and plant a flag, but to cause as much destruction and chaos as possible. A Syrian style civil war. Maybe gain influence over regions. Support terrorists and separatist movements in Iran with US and Israeli air support.

Yeah but iran has a large amount of forces In your army and IRGC

No amount of mossad agents could take on the Iranian military even if others are hitting Iran

It's the same with Pakistan, we have a issue with BLA and TTP, but all they can do is cause a nuisance and needless death of mostly soft targets,

 

[hussain0216]

1000 times stronger how?

its been 20 years of economic rot

Iran had decent development up until the sanctions started to get very heavy in 2012

Even today under this much stress, Iran would beat India on most standards of living

 

[925boy]

don't take china and Russia seriously...

But how can,we not take the air lift flights they are sending to Iran that are helping Iran to rebuild its ballistic missiles (China) and suppressing rioter-protesters communications equipment(Russia)?
Pride and ego wont serve Iran at all now- any and all help Russia and China provide Iran NOW must be acknowledged and appreciated. Everything else is just ego, ignorance or blind pride.

 

[Yasser76]

There are lots of separatist movements inside Iran. Multiple kurdish groups, Baluch groups, the Mossad agents who I don’t believe have been fully dismantled.

Turkey recently spoke about creating a buffer zone inside Iran if things come to that. The syrian government literally consists of old ISIS and Nusra members.

During the 12 day war, eyewitnesses reported about drones flying in from Azerbaijan. UAE is openly working with the Israelis. Saudi has spoken about Ahvaz before. They might claim they are neutral now, but the region is full of opportunists.

The goal wouldn’t be to invade Iran and plant a flag, but to cause as much destruction and chaos as possible. A Syrian style civil war. Maybe gain influence over regions. Support terrorists and separatist movements in Iran with US and Israeli air support.

I see your point, but despite protests, I think Iranians are more united then people think. Many may hate the regime, but they love their country more. Just my experiance with Iranians I met. Very proud people, almost to the point of arrogance if you forgive me saying

 

[Homajon]

This is the aspect that many people are either ignoring or simply do not realize. It doesn't necessarily need to be American boots present on the ground.

The US is planning to deploy PKK terrorists from Syria and Iraq to Iran, effectively transforming the nearby KRG/Northern Iraq into a sanctuary for these terrorists. Equipping them, training them, supplying intelligence, and bolstering their presence in KRG while continuously moving them in and out of Iraq to assassinate, attack, and displace Iranian security forces from NW Iran.

Unfortunately, the border between Iraq and Iran is quite porous, which has been somewhat advantageous for Iran for the past couple decades.

The IRI leadership has overlooked border security for strategic purposes, which I believe was a significant mistake. A semi-permeable border strategy would have been much more sensible and aligned with Iran's true interests.

Containing such a rebellion in the Zagros Mountains is incredibly challenging, expensive, and bloody -not only for Iran but for any country. It encompasses a vast area and serves as a potential leverage point to exert pressure on Iran's leadership whenever the US find it necessary.

I'm convinced that behind closed doors Washington is counting much more on PKK/PJAK than on a popular uprising after an initial attack on Iran.

Aren't you the guy who after the war 7 months ago excitedly and happily acted like a major Kurdish secessionist uprising was currently taking place in Iran and central authority lost all control over Kurdish regions?

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Turkey needs to put a stop to Baku, before it to becomes like ZIO UAE.

The "Defense Index" handle in Twiiter (X) is run by a someone whose information is not reliable. So unless other sources confirm it, take anything stated by that handle with a grain of salt.

 

[KingQamaR]

You have zero clue about what is happening.... As usual.
Our muslim brethren' give way too much cred to the united states. They count themselves out right away.... Like a good second class citizen.

I may have put my wording a bit to tough brother. I’m not here to undermine our Muslim Iranian brothers we stand with them. . While not weak in absolute terms, their Iranian military is significantly outclassed by those of the United States. My point was.

 

[maverick]

Opinions?

That wont be enough, Iran central bank, like Russian and Chinese is not a part of global banking system. and secondly, Israel will never want US companies to go in and wont want Iran to a be a bigger power than them, their expansionist agenda rests on Iran being fragmented and toothless.

 

[KingQamaR]

I agree with @Yasser76 here: I don't think economic strangulation is going to work especially given the limited time left while Trump is the President. Obama knew what to do in the Middle East and if another Democratic POTUS comes to power with progressive ideas than even Obama then I see a revival of JCPOA. Biden was another Israel-firster like Trump is so JCPOA wasn't revived, though there was at least some talk about revival when Biden assumed the office.

I would not count anything out. Americans have enough naval assets around Iran , do a blockade. Stopping there oil exports Cause maximum unrest in country .

 

[Meengla]

The US is planning to deploy PKK terrorists from Syria and Iraq to Iran, effectively transforming the nearby KRG/Northern Iraq into a sanctuary for these terrorists. Equipping them, training them, supplying intelligence, and bolstering their presence in KRG while continuously moving them in and out of Iraq to assassinate, attack, and displace Iranian security forces from NW Iran.

A 'Kurdistan' will be another 'Somaliland' but borders with several key nations to needle and blackmail. Pakistan also has potential problem in Baluchistan in case an Israel friendly regime takes power in Iran.
Big powers have many tools to play with.

 

[Toxic]

Everything that comes out in the Zionist media is a lie, part of the "BBC material":

"Trump knows Iran is militarily weaker than it was before last summer's 12-day war, and Tehran is aware that he has little appetite for a full-scale, open-ended conflict."
This is a classic example of hybrid warfare fake news, used to form coalitions of allies to attack a target by fabricating that it is "weaker," because if they believe it is strong, coalitions won't form.

Iran today is stronger than before the 12-day war; its defense systems have been replaced, new tactics have been implemented, and new technologies have been acquired (such as the one that shut down Starlink and all satellites, cutting off contact between Mossad spies and headquarters).

Ok this is just cope, the extent of damage Iran took in the 12 day conflict can't be replaced in 6 months, dozens of air defence Radars and missile systems, dozens of ballistic missile launchers destroyed which will create a bottleneck there is a reason Iran was launching a dozen ballistic missiles per by the the end of the conflict, remember all that capability took 25 years to build.

 

[Persian Gulf]

large number of KC-135 tankers still in Al Udeid airbase in Qatar

past experience suggests the US will put these all in the air before launching an attack

something to watch

 

[Persian Gulf]

there is a reason Iran was launching a dozen ballistic missiles per by the the end of the conflict, remember all that capability took 25 years to build.

that reason is because the SSM bases in the West had their entrances blocked and the huge number of missiles stored there couldn't be accessed

 

[Meengla]

large number of KC-135 tankers still in Al Udeid airbase in Qatar
past experience suggests the US will put these all in the air before launching an attack
something to watch

From some conversative media browsing, the coming weekend to watch out for... After a while the psychological warfare reaches its limits and the real warfare has to start. It doesn't look like Iran is willing to budge on the core demand of greatly curtailing the missile capability.