Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Kyussis]

No that’s wrong to say innocent people died because of that you can’t blame people for wanting a better life

There were weeks of peaceful protests before CIA/Mossad MeK agents took to the streets to cause havoc. Once the violence started anyone who remained on the streets shoulder to shoulder with terrorists are considered terrorists.

 

[925boy]

The negotiations collapsed before they even started.

Yup

War it is?
Yes, and its for Iran to start it and lead its side of the conflict through it.

 

[mangekyo]

Nah. I doubt it!


Anyone "protesting" next to CIA/Mossad agitators after Mossad had explicitly stated that they are on the streets of Iran, deserved everything they got!

Did all of them know they were protesting next to Mossad?

 

[Shags101]

these militias won’t last long without Iranian support

I don’t know I think Houthis by now are more than capable of doing a lot on their own and like a user said here they were fighting GCC alliance fairly well before Iran got in the picture.

The Iraqi militias are far more powerful and with a lot more support from common Shia Iraqis who see the Iraqi government as corrupt

There’s really only one group facing a threat from within and outside is Hezbollah Lebanon is fractured into 3 different groups and Lebanons army will do Israel’s and Americas bidding so it might blow up one day in another civil war which would make Israel happy Hezbollahs support isn’t at its height of 2006 sorry to say it their biggest screw up was they should have let Bashar to hit fate years ago.

 

[925boy]

Yeah let's wait

Iran will probably pay a high cost if it "waits".

US has never amassed a naval and military contingent this large and not initiated military operations. US might not strike now, but it will strike Iran soon, maybe after Israel starts an attack on Iran(i knew israel was planning another attack on Iran when the Israelis told a Russian envoy to tell Iran that israel has "no plans of attacking Iran").

 

[mangekyo]

Then their plans will fail. There will be no stable Middle East because nobody in their right mind would want to listen to what White Europeans say. We will overthrow them from power, collapse the US Economy, and send White Europeans from colonizer to colonized status as payback for what they did to Natives and Gazans.

Ok, who’s «we»?

 

[Kyussis]

Did all of them know they were protesting next to Mossad?

Had they not relied on Iran International, BBC "persian" and VOA propaganda for their news source, they would have!

 

[Shags101]

Iran will probably pay a high cost if it "waits".

US has never amassed a naval and military contingent this large and not initiated military operations. US might not strike now, but it will strike Iran soon, maybe after Israel starts an attack on Iran(i knew israel was planning another attack on Iran when the Israelis told a Russian envoy to tell Iran that israel has "no plans of attacking Iran").

no plans of attacking Iran

So me you and basically everyone else………just saying MR ANALYST

 

[Shags101]

Ok, who’s «we»?

WE do not speak about the WE the WE are all POWERFUL the WE are waiting int the SHADOWS waiting to STRIKE…..sorry WE I mean me needs to go to sleep hopefully crazy people don’t attack when I wake up

 

[925boy]

But we must acknowledge that security forces did also kill a lot civilians and this will come back to haunt us one day.

It is not the first time security forces kills civilians. They killed a lot of civilians during the green movement. None of these were armed. But it is different now with social media being everywhere.

You cant indiscriminately kill thousands of civilians just because there are armed terrorists hiding amongst them.

But did you know many security forces DID NOT possess deadly weapons when confronting most of the protesters and rioters? This is what led to the deaths of many basij and police forces. Iran almost lost control of its streets, there was going to be some serious collateral to squash and defeat a well funded violent ISIS type street riots that was the 1st stage of a coup in Iran.

 

[925boy]

these militias won’t last long without Iranian support

Yes they will, primarily because iran has set them up and trained them very well, plus their rooted ideology and connection to their people and their struggles, and many can produce their weapons independently (even if they may not be as high tech as what Iran or a country with a good military can produce). Hamas fought against israel very effectively even when ira Iranian support was minimum and it had been almost decimated by Israel.

 

[HAIDER]

when Trump says Iran "is a mess right now because of us", what does he mean?

Ponting finger at Israel......

 

[Mehdipersian]

It is not the first time security forces kills civilians. They killed a lot of civilians during the green movement. None of these were armed. But it is different now with social media being everywhere.

You cant indiscriminately kill thousands of civilians just because there are armed terrorists hiding amongst them.

Which civilians?

If you mean that those who do not have machine guns are civilians, you are wrong.

These people had swords, knives, Molotov cocktails, stones, etc., and they worked in coordination with the armed mercenaries. In addition, I have not yet seen any evidence that the security forces opened fire without reason, which is what caused their high casualties.

Terrorism must be suppressed without mercy, especially terrorism that is carried out at the behest of America and Israel.

 

[kastor ville]

No he doesn't. Ina federal system like US, the president has emergency power to declare war, if he chooses to do so.

He can, as long as he's willing to accept the risk of any fallout from the war, and the insurance for that risk is the congressional approval.

But he has gone to "war"with a few countries already, technically.

Wrong.
To declare war he needs congress approval....Emergency Powers grant him the right to respond to an impending attack or to defend the US if attacked...not powers to put boots on the ground on another country without that said country endangering the US mainland or US forces.


While the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war, presidents often use emergency powers and their role as Commander-in-Chief to authorize limited military action without prior congressional approval. These actions are typically justified under the War Powers Resolution of 1973 to repel attacks, protect U.S. interests."

 

[ToddE]

the HEU stockpile is not destroyed, but buried under rubble. and any attempt to retrieve it will be spotted in real time

So what is going to be shipped to a third country if HEU stockpile (real bone of contention) is not accessible anymore?