Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Kyussis]

He means "ultra-liberal-westoid-pedophile-zionists". They dirtified "nationalism".

With the new revelations of the Jeffery Epstein files, It proves that these "Nationalist" Persians don't mind being stooges of Satanic Child molesting, Child sacrificing and Child eating deamons as long as they bring down the Islamic Republic for their filthy useless a$$! It makes sense. If you are evil , of course you will hate Islam and Muslims!

 

[hasssanali8998]

Thank you..I go "banned" often due to my contradictory views from the mod.

brother u posted ai pics of israeli soldiers with iranian women in tehran with israeli flags all over , tf do u think was going to happen to u

 

[Mehdipersian]

Islamic republic will soon be sent to the garbage bin of the history..47 years of dark history will be remembered and taught in schools as the repulic of "jahl va jonoon".

Expect a blood bath during the us/Isreal bombardment against the IRGC terrorists and their basiji killers....those who stole, murdered and humiliated our culture and history will be eliminated....Iranian nationalists will take over and rebuild this country..14 million of them waiting outside of Iran to do that..Islam for centuries will be looked upon by Iranians as "enemy"...never again allow religion to rule the state.Europeans learned that lesson few centuries back.
And I will be busy trying to establish a national Iranian military forum with participation of many Iranians who have worked in the defence field..

Another troll who has been fleeing to the West for 47 years out of fear of the Iranian people and at the same time claims to represent the Iranian people. You were thrown into the dustbin of history 47 years ago.

The entire West will not be able to do anything against Iran.Your mercenaries will be recorded in history as evil traitors.

 

[Meengla]

From an outsider's perspective:
1) The Iranian 1979 revolution's foreign policy has failed: It had annoyed not only the Western/Zionist interests in the region but also neighboring Arab countries.
2) It appears like the Iranian domestic policies have been better than the brutal, corrupt Shah of Iran rule but due to the harsh sanctions, the policies don't reflect as much, especially considering the population growth since 1979.
3) The war plans against Iran are still in place but there is the American resistance vs Netanyahu's plans. Americans would rather not get involved, wash their hands of the region after making sure Israel remains the regional bully but that's the extent of America's desire involvement in the region. However, Presidents like Biden and Trump have gone too far in supporting Israel, especially Trump has.
4) I absolutely see no way the so-called 14 million expat Iranians' wishful thinking that a toppling of the current system in Iran to be replaced by something like the Shah or others like him to lead to Iran's stabilization and growth.
5) As long as Trump is the POTUS, and sadly that's for almost next 3 more years, Netanyahu's goal would be to make Iran like another Libya or Syria and if that's not going to happen then another toothless country like Lebanon.
6) From Pakistan (and probably Turkey and Saudi Arabia) perspective: An Israeli backed regime-change in Iran would be really bad.

 

[ShapurII]

The 1.5% enrichment leads me to believe this is fake. You need at least 5% enrichment just to create fuel rods for reactors. And you need 20% to create the fuel plates needed for the micro research reactor in Tehran that produces the medical isotopes.

Sure, the 20% could be imported via Russia, but 1.5% is a weird number.

Technically, you can have civilian nuclear reactors working with even natural uranium like the CANDU reactors. The VVER-1000 unit at Bushehr works with 27 tones of 3.5% uranium annually. Needless to say that Iran will NEVER be able to produce enough enriched uranium to operate that single reactor for a single year on its own. But that doesn't matter because the US is not after negotiations with Iran.

What else is left to negotiate over? Iran's nuclear program has been destroyed. We haven't been able to enrich uranium in 7 months and they can keep it that way by constantly bombing us and "mowing the lawn". We haven't been able to even get close to our destroyed nuclear sites after 7 months.

Any concession that Iran accepts in the so-called negotiations will only be to make the cost of future war with Iran less for the US and her allies. Nothing else.

I agree...without major reforms and a deal we will have a civil war. Perhaps even sooner than we think. They need to wake up and realize they're doomed, and there is no bridge behind them. Reform or die!

The regime's narrative has turned to that of the last Pahlavi months before his fall. They do not see what is coming for them. I believe Khamenei, if alive, is not even fed real news about the current situation by the people around him.

 

[ShapurII]

UNCONFIRMED



BREAKING: Al Jazeera claims to have obtained the US-Iran deal framework proposed by Turkey, Qatar and Egypt:
1. Iran agrees to commit to zero uranium enrichment for 3 years, and then agrees to under 1.5% enrichment after that
2. Its stockpile of Highly Enriched Uranium would be transferred to a third country
3. Iran agrees to not transfer weapons and technologies to its regional nonstate allies
4. Iran pledges to not initiate the use of Ballistic Missiles
5. Iran and the US agree to a nonaggression agreement

This is possibly the best offer imaginable for the Islamic Republic, and yet, even this offer is terrible because it does not address the main issue: sanctions relief.

As soon as Iran hands over its stock of HEU, the US will no longer worry about a potential nuclear outbreak and will exert 10x more pressure on Iran even if they decide to honor the agreement, which they won't (like the JCPOA).

 

[Kyussis]

Technically, you can have civilian nuclear reactors working with even natural uranium like the CANDU reactors. The VVER-1000 unit at Bushehr works with 27 tones of 3.5% uranium annually. Needless to say that Iran will NEVER be able to produce enough enriched uranium to operate that single reactor for a single year on its own. But that doesn't matter because the US is not after negotiations with Iran.

What else is left to negotiate over? Iran's nuclear program has been destroyed. We haven't been able to enrich uranium in 7 months and they can keep it that way by constantly bombing us and "mowing the lawn". We haven't been able to even get close to our destroyed nuclear sites after 7 months.

Any concession that Iran accepts in the so-called negotiations will only be to make the cost of future war with Iran less for the US and her allies. Nothing else.


The regime's narrative has turned to that of the last Pahlavi months before his fall. They do not see what is coming for them. I believe Khamenei, if alive, is not even fed real news about the current situation by the people around him.

Yeah Khamenei doesn't know but the Hitler Lovin clown sitting in Italy does? You are special!!!

 

[ShapurII]

Yeah Khamenei doesn't know but the Hitler Lovin clown sitting in Italy does? You are special!!!

Maybe he does, but he can't process what is happening because he is too focused on begging Trump to give him a deal.

After all, from Entegham-e Sakht and threats of assassinating Trump and destroying his assets around the world, he has reached to the point that he is directly negotiating with Trump's most Zionist figures (Jared Koshner and Witkoff).

Timeline of the Ayatollahs and Trump:
1. Entegham-e Sakht: We will kill Trump because he assassinated Gen. Soleimani. 2024: We never said we would kill him.
2. We will never negotiate with the US: Later was changed to we will never negotiate with this administration at least. They ended up negotiating with the US and this administration and even offered them oil deals before the June attack.
3. No to negotiations, no to war: The US launched an attack on Iran through Israel, the Ayatollahs are still begging Trump for diplomacy.

Humiliation after humiliation. It is understandable that you have too much suppressed anger after getting bitch-slapped right and left every year.

 

[Meengla]

The regime's narrative has turned to that of the last Pahlavi months before his fall. They do not see what is coming for them. I believe Khamenei, if alive, is not even fed real news about the current situation by the people around him.

From an outsider's perspective, I don't think you are right on your prediction. If the 'regime' was as fragile as you say, then there would be an all out assault during or right after the recent engineered violence going on.
Trump/Netanyahu have gone back to the drawing boards where there is a tug of war between the American vs Netanyahu interests. But America is a global power with limited regional interests but with powerful regional allies while Netanyahu is a one trick pony. We will see who prevails. Had it been anyone other than Trump--even Biden-- then I could predict who would prevail. But not with Trump as the POTUS.

 

[ShapurII]

From an outsider's perspective, I don't think you are right on your prediction. If the 'regime' was as fragile as you say, then there would be an all out assault during or right after the recent engineered violence going on.
Trump/Netanyahu have gone back to the drawing boards where there is a tug of war between the American vs Netanyahu interests. But America is a global power with limited regional interests but with powerful regional allies while Netanyahu is a one trick pony. We will see who prevails. Had it been anyone other than Trump--even Biden-- then I could predict who would prevail. But not with Trump as the POTUS.

Your outsider's perspective is most likely wrong because your information about Iran and social fabric and history cannot top an Iranian's knowledge of his country.

Time will tell. I have already written my prediction about the situation. Would love to know yours as well, and we will be able to judge who is right or wrong a few months/years from now. There is no need to hurry or talk about theory when the real thing is unfolding in front of our eyes in real time.

 

[Arash]

This is possibly the best offer imaginable for the Islamic Republic, and yet, even this offer is terrible because it does not address the main issue: sanctions relief.

As soon as Iran hands over its stock of HEU, the US will no longer worry about a potential nuclear outbreak and will exert 10x more pressure on Iran even if they decide to honor the agreement, which they won't (like the JCPOA).

Points 1 , 2 & 3 are unacceptable

 

[Immortals]

As soon as Iran hands over its stock of HEU, the US will no longer worry about a potential nuclear outbreak and will exert 10x more pressure on Iran even if they decide to honor the agreement, which they won't (like the JCPOA).

There is no “potential” nuclear outbreak. There never was. Iran was always 2 years away from nuclear bomb assembling. The West/Israel just led a successful propaganda train to make people think it was always 1-6 months away.

Iran was content at sitting as a threshold state like Japan where it could one day decide if the world got hectic or chaotic to go for a nuclear weapon.

But iran overplayed its hand thinking that a threshold state has the deterrence benefits of a bomb state. It doesn’t.

Iran’s nuclear weapons program mostly died in 2003 and was cemented when they killed the reactor at Arak that would have made 4-7 plutonium bombs a year.

So wether Iran gives away its uranium or doesn’t, it’s not a threat in the eyes of the West because the components to assemble the bomb have long been mothballed and shuttered.

 

[Meengla]

Your outsider's perspective is most likely wrong because your information about Iran and social fabric and history cannot top an Iranian's knowledge of his country.

Firstly, pardon me, but based on the expat Pakistanis' perspective about Pakistan, I have grown to be quite skeptical of such Pakistanis and by extension of the expats in general: They are usually in some 'expansive' mode/mood because of their own comfortable, relatively disengaged situation. You may or may not be one of them.

Time will tell. I have already written my prediction about the situation. Would love to know yours as well, and we will be able to judge who is right or wrong a few months/years from now. There is no need to hurry or talk about theory when the real thing is unfolding in front of our eyes in real time.

My prediction is that Iran will be plunged into an worse situation than now should a regime change happens backed by outside powers. Netanyahu will ideally like to see a fragmented Iran and if that's not happening then at least a toothless Iran like Lebanon is. What is YOUR prediction, and my apologies if I had missed them?

 

[Immortals]

 

[ShapurII]

Points 1 , 2 & 3 are unacceptable

The whole thing is an insult to our country.
They are defanging us and do not even offer any sort of economic benefits for it. Iran's main issue at the moment is economic collapse, which is not going to be addressed in the negotiations with that proposed framework.

This is what happens when your enemy sees you're weak and divided.

There is no “potential” nuclear outbreak. There never was. Iran was always 2 years away from nuclear bomb assembling. The West/Israel just led a successful propaganda train to make people think it was always 1-6 months away.

Iran was content at sitting as a threshold state like Japan where it could one day decide if the world got hectic or chaotic to go for a nuclear weapon.

But iran overplayed its hand thinking that a threshold state has the deterrence benefits of a bomb state. It doesn’t.

Iran’s nuclear weapons program mostly died in 2003 and was cemented when they killed the reactor at Arak that would have made 4-7 plutonium bombs a year.

So wether Iran gives away its uranium or doesn’t, it’s not a threat in the eyes of the West because the components to assemble the bomb have long been mothballed and shuttered.

Rationally, there is a reasonable concern that if the status quo in Iran changes, Iran might end up with a transitional system that could potentially consider nuclear deterrence for its survival. That's why they prefer to take out the HEU in Iran and secure it. Even if they don't, they will never let Iran get its hands on it.