Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[StrategicBear]

Let's collect more intel from the enemy side :

 

[muhammed45]

Wendy Sherman says that Araghchi is a very stubborn negotiator. Lol

I wonder, what do these pedophiles in Washington expect? What do they mean by stubborn?

As long as these pedophiles militarize the region and continue with their destabilizing policies, Iran will be there to counter them. Iran is not Venezuela to sell itself easily.

 

[Arash]

Wendy Sherman says that Araghchi is a very stubborn negotiator. Lol

I wonder, what do these pedophiles in Washington expect? What do they mean by stubborn?

As long as these pedophiles militarize the region and continue with their destabilizing policies, Iran will be there to counter them. Iran is not Venezuela to sell itself easily.

For them someone saying NO is not democratic, they prefer children who cannot answer (preferably under 3yo)

 

[aerospace_enthusiast_newb]

An eye-opening and massive number of C-17 Globemaster military transport and cargo planes have been observed heading to Europe and the Middle East, in what some monitors have forewarned looks like the build-up to major war in Iran.

One regional watcher and pundit commented in response: "112 C-17s are in or on their way to the Middle East. Guys, that’s a lot. Like Desert Storm a lot. Stay tuned."

At Least 112 USAF C-17 Aircraft Headed To Middle East: 'Desert Storm Levels'<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

According to Reuters national security correspondent: Last year it took around 73 C-17 Globemaster sorties to transport a single Patriot battalion from Asia to the ME. So why is 112 C-17s an eye-opening or massive number? Considering that the U.S. has to cover a wider area?

EDIT: I'll try to find the link, but it was Idrees Ali, he is the national security correspondent for Reuters.

EDIT 2: When the U.S. wanted to bolster its forces in the Middle East ahead of a potential conflict with Iran, it took 73 C-17 loads to move one Patriot air defense battalion across the globe, the head of U.S. Indo-Pacific Command testified before Congress on Thursday.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Photo of the Kaaba curtain that the Saudis and Emiratis gifted to Epstein
View attachment 177810

I dont get your point? involving religion and young girls in business deals is a cultural thing or a personal act, it is hard to discern at this point.

if it is a cultural thing, then, it is not a single person or single act.

 

[ShapurII]

Be thankful we have not got SU-35S yet or the fleet would have been rubbled on ground. Thats how much vulnerable airbases are. See what happened in recent wars/conflicts.

It's too late for "what if's" now but maybe if we had a modern air force, the US would've never dared to take out Haj Qassem in Iraq with a drone because he would've had air cover.
Maybe Israel and Republic of Azerbaijan would've never dared to take out our President inside our territory. Maybe Israel would've never dared to launch two large operations against us on its own. Basically, a chain of events that led to this point could've been stopped much earlier, or not even get initiated in the first place.

Most importantly, it would've been very easy to convince the Iranians about that huge spending while we were suffering under draconian sanctions. No Iranian would've challenged our decision to arm the IRIAF, or our ground forces, or create an IADS to defend our sky. However, Iran lost not only lost over 50 billion USD in Syria, but we also lost our regional and internal legitimacy by arming Assad to kill his own people.

Again, it's too late for what if's now. Our defense strategy at this point is offense by our missile forces and drones, but we are under-armed for that too.

 

[Mehdipersian]

I dont get your point? involving religion and young girls in business deals is a cultural thing or a personal act, it is hard to discern at this point.

if it is a cultural thing, then, it is not a single person or single act.

The Jews have done the same thing to the leaders of Arab countries as they did to Trump.

They have given child sex slaves to Arab leaders, and they have filmed and photographed their rape of children, and they are using this as a tool of pressure.

 

[ShapurII]

INTERNET INTEL - GROUND INVASION Planned To Seize The Iranian Oil Fields



Last week, I reported that the United States had begun a significant deployment of ground forces to the Middle East by air, citing as one example a 747 operated by the U.S. Transportation Command, configured to carry 453 people, departing from Baltimore.

For this, I was accused of exaggerating and told there was no way the U.S. would launch any kind of ground invasion of Iran.

I can now confirm that the U.S. is indeed shipping M1A1 Abrams tanks to the Middle East, specifically to Jordan. (Image #2)

If the U.S. has no intention of entering Iran by land, why are we sending main battle tanks to Jordan?

I suspect the U.S. intends to seize the Iranian oil and gas fields. The map below shows that almost all of these fields are located in the far west of the country. (Image #3)

From the border with Armenia (where U.S. military equipment and troops are also flowing in) to the vicinity of the Kuwaiti border (where other U.S. forces are flowing in), and all the way to Bandar Abbas (facing the Persian Gulf and all our major Middle Eastern military bases/U.S. allies).

It seems to me that if we seize the Iranian oil and gas fields, the entire Iranian government will collapse within a week or two.

No long, drawn-out war.

This is just a guess, based on publicly available images and news reports.

This is actually very plausible and it is one of the scenarios that I have long considered to be the final blow.

This is why I say that the Islamic Republic has lost their last card: public support. It all started after Aban 98, but it got much worse after Mahsa Amini protests and the last month's protests. If the US manages to occupy Iranian territory in Khuzestan and Bushehr (two provinces of Iran that possess most of our oil and gas infrastructure), Iran is over. We will face severe cash shortage that could cause hyper inflation and famine.

In fact, Iranian economy has three pillars: 1. Tehran, as it contributes the most to our government's budget and GDP through taxing and industry, 2. Bushehr, and 3. Khuzestan. And all of these provinces are extremely anti-IR to the point that they will give Americans a heroic welcome instead of fighting back.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The Jews have done the same thing to the leaders of Arab countries as they did to Trump.

They have given child sex slaves to Arab leaders, and they have filmed and photographed their rape of children, and they are using this as a tool of pressure.

could be true, given our history.

But, I dont think, Epstein is the man to deal with us.

It could involve more rooted and proven setup like CIA and others (hard to identify and separate out like Esptein).

Most of these Arabs and Emiraties, are the owners of companies with thousands of employees. DP world is the largest port in the ME with thousands of employees. Why would they need Epstein for his services?!

 

[StrategicBear]

This is actually very plausible and it is one of the scenarios that I have long considered to be the final blow.

This is why I say that the Islamic Republic has lost their last card: public support. It all started after Aban 98, but it got much worse after Mahsa Amini protests and the last month's protests. If the US manages to occupy Iranian territory in Khuzestan and Bushehr (two provinces of Iran that possess most of our oil and gas infrastructure), Iran is over. We will face severe cash shortage that could cause hyper inflation and famine.

In fact, Iranian economy has three pillars: 1. Tehran, as it contributes the most to our government's budget and GDP through taxing and industry, 2. Bushehr, and 3. Khuzestan. And all of these provinces are extremely anti-IR to the point that they will give Americans a heroic welcome instead of fighting back.

If the US foolishly goes in for those 2 provinces, then Iran should go scorched-earth and take out every Gulf Arab oil refinery, massively mine Hormuz, and hit back at the US Navy with all anti-ship missiles they have.

Population-wise, Iran can overwhelm any US "boots on the ground" easily with suicide drones, suicide vehicles, mass MLRS and SRBM strikes at US Barracks and logistics nodes, striking oil facilities they occupy, and mass mobilization of Basijis.

 

[ShapurII]

If the US foolishly goes in for those 2 provinces, then Iran should go scorched-earth and take out every Gulf Arab oil refinery, massively mine Hormuz, and hit back at the US Navy with all anti-ship missiles they have.

Population-wise, Iran can overwhelm any US "boots on the ground" easily with suicide drones, suicide vehicles and mass mobilization of Basijis.

Provided that Iran has enough suicide drones, but we probably don't. We fired fewer than 1,000 drones at Israel in the 12-day war. In comparison, Russia fires over 1,000 Shahed drones at Ukraine in a single day recently.

Also, do not even think that our ground forces or Basij would be able to get close to the US troops if the Americans manage to set foot on the Iranian soil. I mean how do we want to do that without aviation support for our troops? How do we want to transport our troops when the USAF dominates the sky and the IRIAF will be nowhere to be found?

 

[hasssanali8998]

We fired fewer than 1,000 drones at Israel in the 12-day war

i think that is because israel is very far that would not be the case if US takes over iranian provinces .

 

[ShapurII]

i think that is because israel is very far that would not be the case if US takes over iranian provinces .

Yes, but Israel is still within the range of Shahed-136 and our strategy to counter the superior technology of the US and NATO has always been to overwhelm their defenses with swarm attacks. In fact, this was one of the main reasons for the introduction of Shahed in the first place, and we failed to execute that as planned.

There is no doubt that technology-wise, we're decades behind the US. We always counted on the low price of our equipment to mass-produce them in large enough numbers to use swarm attacks and asymmetric tactics to compensate for that gap.

 

[LX1111]

Provided that Iran has enough suicide drones, but we probably don't. We fired fewer than 1,000 drones at Israel in the 12-day war. In comparison, Russia fires over 1,000 Shahed drones at Ukraine in a single day recently.

Also, do not even think that our ground forces or Basij would be able to get close to the US troops if the Americans manage to set foot on the Iranian soil. I mean how do we want to do that without aviation support for our troops? How do we want to transport our troops when the USAF dominates the sky and the IRIAF will be nowhere to be found?

If I were Iran, I would buy North Korean missiles. North Korean missiles are clearly more advanced than Iranian ones. Iran's most advanced medium-range missiles are still traditional liquid-fueled missiles, while North Korean missiles are far more advanced.


Purchasing a small number of North Korean missiles would be enough to destroy Israel's THAAD and Arrow-3 systems.