Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakShaheen_79]

form 47 losers, no self respect… they will be next and will run with their tail between their legs

It is not about politicians or individuals. We must see the pattern. Israel expansion is ultimate goal by carving out a large area of Northern Saudi Arabia. There is no reason to believe that once Iran done, Netan Yahu will not push Trump or other future US administrations to take out Pakistan's nuclear program and dismental our military infrastructure. No one will come to our help. All Muslim naitons will happily help Israel/US. IMHO, In Plan A, India will lead the attack but US and Israel will be providing all critical help like ELINT, SIGINT, Cortex, even if Pakistan defeat it, Isreal will go for Iran like strike under any pretext (May be a false flag in US or Israel). There is a reason why after years of neglect or patience Pakistan suddenly waged a full blown war against TTA who were getting cozy with Israelis. Testing ICBM must be our immidiate short-term naitonal objective. Acquiring hypersonics and expanding PAF's capabilities towards developing a "Kill-Mesh" architecture and doctrine must be next.

 

[K2RULEZ]

The supreme leader and majority of the leadership are not "a few top individuals". What US are doing is weakening the West and Central part of Iran which hold vital cities like Tehran, Esfahan, Hamedan, etc and we will likely have an east and west Iran situation. It won't happen over night and will happen if Iran keep resisting, but the US and Israel seem to be going full steam with their plan with Iran's response both ineffective, weak and wavering.....or Iran negotiates to become a fully cucked nation that recognises Israel, no missiles, no nukes and probably open to foreign bases.

Surely the Iranian leadership won't accept these cuck demands.

 

[That_Guy]

One thing that i dont understand is that did iran not have any sleeper cells in West? We havent seen any assassinations of adversaries so far. Why is that?

Because Israeli and American intelligence are far better equipped at detecting spies, double agents, sleeper cells.

 

[Tehrani021]

This cannot be the end goal. Surely Iran has lost material and leadership. The Americans and especially the Zionists want a complete regime change and nothing less. Iran losing is not the end goal. Iranian leaders can always make a comeback.

The Zionists and Americans planned this attack to initiate regime change. Anything less means objectives not met for Israel and the US.

Like I said the alternative to regime change, is Venezuela style cuckdom negotiation and surrender. The only issue is what will happen to the IRGC. I guess they will go to east Iran or be dismantled. Not sure to be honest.

 

[K2RULEZ]

lol is this how define being friendly consisting around being neck-deep in strategic, economic, and military partnerships with the Indians massive trade corridors, defense cooperation, intelligence sharing, energy deals worth billions. Why should Pakistan blindly back the United Arab Emirates just because of remittances and optics, when the UAE is strategically welded to India, so spare the lecture about allegiance meanwhile, for all the Iranian flaws, they're not pouring billions into strengthening India's military or strategic infrastructure.
When UAE consistently bankrolls OUR rival and strengthens OUR competitors, calling it "friendly" isn't realism. It's denial. If you think UAE are "friendly" without questioning the obvious, then you're not thinking geopolitically instead you're just a fanboy who mistakes PR slogans for strategy.

The UAE is an enemy. Without a shred of a doubt.

 

[RocketLaw]

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Because Israeli and American intelligence are far better equipped at detecting spies, double agents, sleeper cells.

one thing to learn from this war is Pakistan must fund heavily the ISI and have it under strict control

So When we want to knock someone out then we could



The ISI used to be a rival to Mossad back then in the 80s and we need to return it to that level

 

[Tehrani021]

Surely the Iranian leadership won't accept these cuck demands.

Very soon they will have to. That's where the trajectory is heading.

 

[ToqeLowkey]

 

[hyperman]

Good thinking. That makes you different from most Turkish fanboys.

Your thinking is sound.

You are being incredibly insulting.

Show us the evidence of anyone relying on Article 5.

You made up a strawman, and then you tore it down.

 

[hussain0216]

Interesting aq khan got the big stick for it
I am surprised how Pakistan kept it weapons after that
What string it pulled and what did it agreed to

We were also the ones that screwed over the USSR

supported the Taliban whilst taking money from the U.S and NATO and screwing them over

Repeatedly smacking a big neighbour in India


Pakistan has a lot of faults, but we do have some strategic thinkers in our ranks whose ultimate aim is to defend Pakistan against all enemies

 

[Takayoshi]

Has this been confirmed ?

 

[Falcon29]

The US government is giving more protection to Israel than their own troops.

This is a fact. They deployed many more Patriot and Thaad batteries in Israel than for US bases.

 

[hyperman]

when discussing potential future conflict with Israel.

What is it that you see that Turkey is NOT doing, in terms of self reliance? As if its depending on Article 5.

You create strawmen.

 

[ustaad]

Thousands of missiles are only useful if there are enough launchers to launch them from/with.

These are the US's main targets. Whenever one shows up, they tend to put it out of action because Iran doesn't seem to have any air defence to protect them from American airstrikes.

Can't they hide them in jungles, below bridges etc. Like this is something Vietnam and Iraq already did in 19th century