Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

US Defence Secretary on the news now.

Crazy - I thought the Orange idiot was the only buffoon in the administration, but this bloke is right up there.

Correction Secretary of WAR and people think America isn’t a joke anymore

 

[RescueRanger]

dude got a Kaffir tattoo on his biceps lol he is cringy AF, you know like those 30-40 years old losers who thinks they are still in some college Alpha male sorority.

This!

 

[VCheng]

US Defence Secretary on the news now.

Crazy - I thought the Orange idiot was the only buffoon in the administration, but this bloke is right up there.

All of the current lot are. Being a buffoon was a requirement.

 

[Ali_Baba]

As per US - 03 F-15s shotdown mistakenly by Kuwaiti Air Defences

The pilots were lucky they were strapped in F15s, they are chunky and can take hit, allowing them to get out. A single jet pilot, may not have been as lucky.

 

[Meengla]

If Russia had balls they would be supplying Iran with weapons for all the hell the U.S./NATO put them thru by constantly arming Ukraine.

balls or weapons to spare from the Ukraine war.

 

[TopGun786]

It is going to be a rout for Iran. Death of few civilians or military personnel from the West/GCC due to Iranian missiles is unlikely to turn the tide for Iran. Iran doesn’t have the muscle power to really cause damage of a scale that might make US/Israel to get intimidated.

It is understandable that Iran didn’t have very many options to create a credible Air Force but they did have an option to create a potent Air Defence along with a powerful Missile/Rocket Force. That might have made a lot a difference.

There are few more deductions that are pertinent to US -Iran situation and impact on global order.

- US is the foremost power without any doubt. They have what it takes, to launch an operation at a scale that can’t be matched by anyone else, for a foreseeable future.
- China may have weapons and platforms at a similar scale as the US, but doesn’t have political willpower to undertake a similar operation. A very big reason could be lack of powerful allies. Few African and Asian midgets is all that they have as allies and these too would fall in line if the West just as much gives one stern look at them. Recent action in Venezuela and now in Iran shows that China is still faraway from exerting it’s military heft.
- Iran did have Chinese AD (specifically HQ8/9) but it proved to be a dud. Why and how might be a matter of great interest to many military observers.
- A large number of posters are celebrating attacks on the UAE. Many of them are ecstatic that this is the end of UAE. Nothing more than a juvenile concept that is likely to bite the dust within a short time. Iran has attacked not only the UAE but also Saudi, Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait. The scale of damage isn’t much and once Iran has fallen, the turnaround of all these economies is likely to be very fast.
- A very important lesson on self defence has been learned by all these countries under attack by Iran. They all had offloaded their Air Defence to the US and we all can see how bad this decision was. US umbrella has miserably failed to provide any useful protection to anyone. Even own US installations and embassies have been struck.
Nations need to have some self reliance in this aspect.
- Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Kuwait might join the offensive directly. That would create a very unique situation for many nations that have a defence pact with any of these.
- Expectations of an Ukraine type resistance by Iran is extremely unlikely. The reason is lack of any support to Iran from any quarter. Iran is going to fall and the only question is not IF but WHEN.

You look sad. Why?

 

[Feroze]

If Iran survive this onslaught and illegal war that was imposed on them, They will have my outmost respect and I bet that even Americans will have a huge respect for the Iranians at this point, not the cunts like Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz types the sell out but the Generals/Officers/soldiers. I don't expect the same from IDF as they are scum and have no honor and dignity.

And to all the ME/Arab countries, Russia/China all cowering, Specially Arabs who allowed their own countries to be bombed for letting America/Israel use their Air space and countries to kill Iranian civilians, I don't care whether Shiite Sect is right or not but at this Point Rasool Allah nor his close Companions would side with the Arabs and for what they have become.

Yes if Iran survives this, Iran has earned my respect. Shows other Muslim countries that they have the power to resist the West.

My abba says Sunni or Shia does not matter. Sunni or Shia is merely political and not theological.

 

[Shags101]

I wonder if Iran would be tempted to launch a ground invasion of either Iraq, or Kuwait to go after American bases to turn this into a real quagmire for the Americans.

That would really take it up the escalation ladder ?

I would assume you would need massive air defenses to cover those troops and a competent Air Force in waiting for small teams of quad forces to arrive quietly in Qatar Bahrain Kuwait and uae seems logical

 

[iron shrapnel]

They couldn't get to the mountain bases so they getting frustrated.

 

[Taimoor]

I wonder if Iran would be tempted to launch a ground invasion of either Iraq, or Kuwait to go after American bases to turn this into a real quagmire for the Americans.

That would really take it up the escalation ladder ?

Yes very interesting, they don't have boots on the ground neither can muster up anything in near future. Top of that, no coalition of willing is coming to assist this time.

 

[j_hungary]

Can this actually happen? 3 jets shot down ? I mean 1 i get it by mistake, Indians do it all the time, but 3 jets with Friendly fire sounds very weird to me, 1 is mistake, 2 co-incidence but 3 sounds suspicious to me.

No idea.........

I don't think you can shoot down 3 of your own in one setting, and I am just saying there are a lot of things you have to do wrong in order to have this result.......

It's almost believing that they are actually retaliating against the strike would appear more competent than genuinely shooting them down by mistake.....

I mean, you need to understand, this is not a "oopsie, I pressed a button by mistake" type of thing.

 

[Mr X]

Saudis threaten to target Iranian oil facilities if Tehran mounts ‘concerted’ strike on Aramco

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www.timesofisrael.com

Trump Everything is going as planned the greatest most amazing most beautiful fast war ever I wrap this up faster than my assistant would wrap one of Epsteins “presents”…:. @tsunset that one was for you
So glad I personally don’t pay for gas going to suck for a lot of people

Do not quote Israeli sources as they are banned on this forum since last 2 months

Violation of rules can lead to your ban

 

[Starlord]

Yes if Iran survives this, Iran has earned my respect. Shows other Muslim countries that they have the power to resist the West.

UAE/Kuwait/Qatar/Bahrain they should just commit collective suicide, their ancestor's must be looking at them with disgust.

 

[not_ahk]

It's okay. Kuch din guzaara kar lengy nahe lagayn gy gheedian or one-wheeling. Let Iran do what it consider is important to its survival.

Bhai tension na lo, gheedian nhi rukti apki.

There are other ports as well, red sea Yanbu, or we can get it from Far East.

Sudan also exports oil but I am not sure if our refineries can handle their oil.

 

[Starlord]

No idea.........

I don't think you can shoot down 3 of your own in one setting, and I am just saying there are a lot of things you have to do wrong in order to have this result.......

It's almost believing that they are actually retaliating against the strike would appear more competent than genuinely shooting them down by mistake.....

I mean, you need to understand, this is not a "oopsie, I pressed a button by mistake" type of thing.

Oh i bet it can not be that oopsi i press the wrong button, one would imagine the measures countries take to avoid the friendly fire of a fighter jet during a conflict or war, hence my suspicious about the whole 3 jets, I guess Kuwait now becomes the only country that have shot down more American jets than any other since world war 2 (?)

Congratulations to Kuwait for this achievement.