Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mobius]

 

[RescueRanger]

Why? Why would Turkey do that?

Closing land borders is standard practice at times of war.

 

[KingQamaR]

No idea.........

I don't think you can shoot down 3 of your own in one setting, and I am just saying there are a lot of things you have to do wrong in order to have this result.......

It's almost believing that they are actually retaliating against the strike would appear more competent than genuinely shooting them down by mistake.....

I mean, you need to understand, this is not a "oopsie, I pressed a button by mistake" type of thing.

I guess that’ friend or foe’ technology built into the USA aircraft & USA defense system isn’t good then.

 

[Meengla]

Streaming starting.
Patrick Henningsen is especially interesting because of his Iran connections.

 

[Mobius]

 

[RescueRanger]

Flight Routes to re-open:
Dubai - 1900/2100 hrs

 

[j_hungary]

I wouldn't discount the logical possibility(maybe small) of this being an ambush by an Iranian mobile IADS platform either. The distances are within range. This is the same as when the Patriots shot down 3 Su30(derivatives) during the start of the Ukraine war when they got the Patriots for the first time.

Mobile SAM doesn't have its own radar control; it generally operates in very close range, unless you have a very good comm network + AWACS fly over to provide coverage, that Iranian Mobile system would have to be deep inside Iraq or even inside Kuwait to be effective.

While Manpad can make this happen, a Manpad taking out 3 advance aerial platforms in one setting is not really possible.

 

[Hayabusa]

Dude is worse than a gas lighting girlfriend.

 

[Feroze]

Closing land borders is standard practice at times of war.

This is the time to be united against that shitty Israel now.

 

[M. Sarmad]

There is Spain, and then there are arabs!

The core issue here is structural, those Arab states lack governments answerable to their people.... Power rests with entrenched monarchies whose very survival has long depended on U.S. backing...

Public sentiment among Arabs is no different from that in other Muslim or non-Muslim societies..... the gap lies between rulers and ruled...

No person, regardless of religion or nationality, who has no vested interest and whose conscience is intact can endorse what the Zionists are up to ...

 

[RescueRanger]

I wouldn't discount the logical possibility(maybe small) of this being an ambush by an Iranian mobile IADS platform either. The distances are within range. This is the same as when the Patriots shot down 3 Su30(derivatives) during the start of the Ukraine war when they got the Patriots for the first time.

That's practically impossible bro - IAF aircraft are carpet bombing Teheran and somehow an Iranian IADS targeted three US aircraft in Kuwait?

 

[RescueRanger]

This is the time to be united against that shifty Israel now.

Well I can't speak for the Turkish people. Their country, their choice.

 

[Michael]

@RescueRanger
Regarding the oil issue, let me provide some additional analysis for your reference.

1. The United States is the world's largest oil producer, and China is the sixth largest. In 2025, their total oil production will be 680 million tons and 216 million tons, respectively. The US production is approximately 3.1 times that of China.

2. Crude oil consumption. In 2025, China's crude oil consumption will be 762 million tons; the US's crude oil consumption will be 990 million tons.

This shows that China needs to import a large amount of crude oil. The US is largely self-sufficient and has a low dependence on imported crude oil.

However, there is another very interesting phenomenon.

Many years ago, China began adjusting its oil strategy, namely reducing refined oil consumption and increasing petrochemical product output. Simply put, the proportion of crude oil converted into refined oil in China is decreasing significantly, while the proportion converted into chemical products is increasing significantly. In 2025, China's refined oil conversion rate will be approximately 55%. This rate is declining at a rate of about 3% per year.

The United States has not released relevant data. Based on various analyses, the US refined oil conversion rate is estimated to be around 80-85%.

So, here's the question:

The proportion of crude oil converted into refined oil or chemical products is related to the quality of the crude oil. Simply put: Light crude oil yields higher returns when converted into refined oil and lower returns when converted into chemical products. It also requires less sophisticated refining technology. Lower investment, lower returns.

Heavy crude oil yields lower returns when converted into refined oil and higher returns when converted into chemical products. It also requires more sophisticated refining technology. Higher investment, higher returns.

If we compare the quality of crude oil from major oil-producing regions worldwide, and combine this with my analysis above, you'll discover many very interesting phenomena.

 

[Mobius]

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger
Regarding the oil issue, let me provide some additional analysis for your reference.

1. The United States is the world's largest oil producer, and China is the sixth largest. In 2025, their total oil production will be 680 million tons and 216 million tons, respectively. The US production is approximately 3.1 times that of China.

2. Crude oil consumption. In 2025, China's crude oil consumption will be 762 million tons; the US's crude oil consumption will be 990 million tons.

This shows that China needs to import a large amount of crude oil. The US is largely self-sufficient and has a low dependence on imported crude oil.

However, there is another very interesting phenomenon.

Many years ago, China began adjusting its oil strategy, namely reducing refined oil consumption and increasing petrochemical product output. Simply put, the proportion of crude oil converted into refined oil in China is decreasing significantly, while the proportion converted into chemical products is increasing significantly. In 2025, China's refined oil conversion rate will be approximately 55%. This rate is declining at a rate of about 3% per year.

The United States has not released relevant data. Based on various analyses, the US refined oil conversion rate is estimated to be around 80-85%.

So, here's the question:

The proportion of crude oil converted into refined oil or chemical products is related to the quality of the crude oil. Simply put: Light crude oil yields higher returns when converted into refined oil and lower returns when converted into chemical products. It also requires less sophisticated refining technology. Lower investment, lower returns.

Heavy crude oil yields lower returns when converted into refined oil and higher returns when converted into chemical products. It also requires more sophisticated refining technology. Higher investment, higher returns.

If we compare the quality of crude oil from major oil-producing regions worldwide, and combine this with my analysis above, you'll discover many very interesting phenomena.

Let me take a moment to digest this detailed post <3