Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

On the eve of the strike on Iran, U.S. officials envisioned a four- to five-day operation that would return a weakened Tehran to the negotiating table. According to one source, an American official conveyed an even more immediate proposal. Through a mediator, apparently Italy, he suggested reaching a ceasefire agreement today or tomorrow. Iran rejected the idea outright.

Is it a credible news? I didn't think after the January failure of the protest they could hope for a regime change in Iran. Plus, people rally behind the flag when being attacked.
If this is credible news then incredible stupidity on part of the Trump admin. But I have my doubts because a ceasefire at this stage would be an Iranian 'victory' and that would have far reaching negative consequences for Israel and the American stature in the Middle East.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Ali_Baba]

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That is from TP2.. Iran has not launched mass launches like that in this round, they are far more calibrated right now.

 

[RescueRanger]

Is it a credible news? I didn't think after the January failure of the protest they could hope for a regime change in Iran. Plus, people rally behind the flag when being attacked.
If this is credible news then incredible stupidity on part of the Trump admin. But I have my doubts because a ceasefire at this stage would be an Iranian 'victory' and that would have far reaching negative consequences for Israel and the American stature in the Middle East.

Trump is on record saying he expects this war to last 2-3 weeks even a month or more.

 

[Hayabusa]

Why would you wholeheartedly believe israeli news source? They never admit their losses unless videos made by random people come out.

It reeks bias in some of their post. That is true. But so far, they have been the only one posting accurate posts from both sides of the conflict. Damages from both Israel and Iran. No other X channel does this as accurately yet unless you can recommend.

 

[Falcon29]

Iranian drones are very easily hitting targets in the GCC

They're struggling with drones but shooting down most ballistic missiles

That may change if interceptors continue being expended

 

[RescueRanger]

Iranian drones are very easily hitting targets in the GCC

They're struggling with drones but shooting down most ballistic missiles

That may change if interceptors continue being expended

And this is the part that should be concerning - just how much are the GCC willing to tolerate before their posture changes from defensive to offensive?

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

@Muji.Iqbal how many times do i havw tk delete your posts with a note not to discuss Pak affairs in Iranian section. They are at war and frankly dont care about what Pak thinks.

Final warning then thread ban if you discuss pak affairs here.

Sorry Sir. I will not mention Pakistan here again.

 

[Bengal71]

Here’s a look at how many missiles and drones the Gulf nations have reported since the war began:

Kuwait has intercepted 178 ballistic missiles and 384 drones, according to state media Kuwait News Agency on Monday.

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has intercepted 169 missiles out of 182 detected, with the rest landing in the sea. It has also intercepted 645 drones, with an additional 44 hitting within state territory, according to its ministry of defense.

Bahrain has intercepted 70 missiles and 76 drones, state media reported on Tuesday, citing the General Command of the Bahrain Defence Force.

Qatar has intercepted 101 missiles out of a total of 104 detected, as well as 24 out of 39 drones, and shot down two Iranian SU-24 bomber aircraft, according to the state-run Qatar News Agency.

Saudi Arabia hasn’t released a total figure of missiles or drones intercepted. The US Embassy in Riyadh was hit by suspected Iranian drones, according to two sources familiar with the matter on Tuesday. The Ministry of Defense later said eight drones were intercepted near the cities of Riyadh and Al-Kharj.

Oman has long played a mediating role between Washington and Tehran, and has largely stayed out of the line of fire. But Oman’s Duqm commercial port was targeted by two drones on Sunday, and an oil tanker was attacked about five nautical miles off the coast of Masandam.

That's 500+ missiles between Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain and Qatar only, not counting SA. I don't think Iran fired that many.

 

[Meengla]

I think very little success is achieved by spreading around their missiles all over the place. Especially towards well defended targets. Imagine the impact they might have had if they had concentrated their fire on one or two targets. Say, 1,000 missiles each on Dubai and Abu Dhabi. The results would have been enough to force the other side to agree to a ceasefire. By drip, drip, drip targeting all around, there is relatively little damage to force ceasefire on the attackers.

Why would targeting anything in the Arab states be a major factor in a ceasefire when the Americans don't care for the Arab infra and Israelis would actually be glad for the destruction? The bases are heavily protected and if casualties/destruction happening there then that's part of the war and factored in; they would not be a major factor for a ceasefire.
As I have said multiple times here: Either increasing number of American casualties and/or major destruction in Israel would be force a ceasefire, that is if Iran would agree to a ceasefire after what happened since Saturday. The third, more distant factor is economic pain America itself.
Nah, I don't see a desire by Israel/America for a ceasefire at this stage.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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I honestly though he bent over Trump for another reason - what else can explain why Trump needs nappies ?! ( Mods - don't ban me )..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

If China is actually helping them, they should assist with target acquisition. Like where the US and Israeli drones/jets are actually taking off from. Or where sensitive Israeli weapons depots are.

China's leadership is similar to the Iranian leadership in many aspects, too conservative to make a major move.

But I do understand their concern as well, because they are worried that Iran will agree another ceasefire with the US, then tell the US how China has supported from behind.

Iran's reformists have sold out China once with Huawei, and China sees that the reformist influence is still strong in Iran, and they are afraid of getting sold out again by those reformists.

 

[Bengal71]

And this is the part that should be concerning - just how much are the GCC willing to tolerate before their posture changes from defensive to offensive?

I don't think they can go offensive. If they do, their oil facilities will be destroyed.

 

[RescueRanger]

I don't think they can go offensive. If they do, their oil facilities will be destroyed.

This is where you would be VERY wrong.

 

[Aad80]

In the 12 day war last summer; Iran was able to hit many crucial infrastructure in Tel Aviv and Haifa. I hope they can do it again this time. Why are Dimona and the Knesset still not targeted?