Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

What's the end game then ? What I don't understand is what will Iran achieve in the coming days ? Ok, you destroyed most of the equipment, damaged economic buildings of colluding states... Now what's next ?

the objective is survival

the method is to create unbearable costs on the enemy to force them to abandon their regime change war

what do you think Iran should do when it is attacked by two nuclear powers during negotiations?

 

[Persian Gulf]

lol.. AD-UAE

any nice impacts to report? stay safe, of course.

 

[VCheng]

China is a Business minded nation - they look at bottom line.

And in that alone lies an important lesson for Pakistan, in relation to the topic of this thread.

 

[Cicero]

reports are that there is mass censorship in israel and things are far worse then they seem there

I doubt it, Iran is launching at best 15-20 missiles a day usually in 1-2 salvos at a time. It's relatively easy to intercept. People forget that during the June War the Salvos were often 20-30 missiles at a time. It's the reason why the casualties were higher. Up until now, their has been only one mass casualty event when a bunker was struck killing 9 people. Meanwhile Israel is hitting hundreds of targets per day. You can't hide deaths and funerals. Iran's ability to hit Israel was greatly reduced in a space of 24-48 hours which is why they are going after the GCC more since its easier. The question is whether full deterrence will be established or not, their was massive declines in missile launches to Israel by day 4, but it seems the rate of decline has slowed or stopped. Best case scenario they can keep up 15-20 missile launches per day with numerous 1-2 missile salvos, will prevent Israel from opening up its airport and general economy but won't cause mass destruction and casualties. We need to be realistic at this point.

 

[K2RULEZ]

China is a Business minded nation - they look at bottom line.

Pretty much absent, but I suppose they must have their reasons.

 

[El Sidd]

Who the fcuk said that Iran won't attack neighbors? My apartment is shaking right now.

Can't you move somewhere a bit more inland?

 

[Persian Gulf]

I doubt it, Iran is launching at best 15-20 missiles a day usually in 1-2 salvos at a time. It's relatively easy to intercept. People forget that during the June War the Salvos were often 20-30 missiles at a time. It's the reason why the casualties were higher. Up until now, their has been only one mass casualty event when a bunker was struck killing 9 people. Meanwhile Israel is hitting hundreds of targets per day. You can't hide deaths and funerals. Iran's ability to hit Israel was greatly reduced in a space of 24-48 hours which is why they are going after the GCC more since its easier. The question is whether full deterrence will be established or not, their was massive declines in missile launches to Israel by day 4, but it seems the rate of decline has slowed or stopped. Best case scenario they can keep up 15-20 missile launches per day with numerous 1-2 missile salvos, will prevent Israel from opening up its airport and general economy but won't cause mass destruction and casualties. We need to be realistic at this point.

fair assessment

Iran was not able to fire large salvos of liquid fuel missiles in the first days to deplete Israel's inventories, and now the US has given them more air defences than ever

even our most advanced missiles are likely not getting through (except for K-4 with submunitions)

but if Iran can sustain 10-20 missiles per day at Israel for several weeks, the interceptor numbers can change

 

[KingQamaR]

So, what are Iran's "legal" rights given that the Cyprus bases are being used as a base to launch attacks against Iran ???? Stop the bases from being used, Period.

It’s up to Cypriotes, and GCC Arab citizens to kick out these U.K. and American criminal bases from their country’s.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran is attacking the US base in Al Dhafra, UAE now

 

[TallGuy]

I doubt it, Iran is launching at best 15-20 missiles a day usually in 1-2 salvos at a time. It's relatively easy to intercept. People forget that during the June War the Salvos were often 20-30 missiles at a time. It's the reason why the casualties were higher. Up until now, their has been only one mass casualty event when a bunker was struck killing 9 people. Meanwhile Israel is hitting hundreds of targets per day. You can't hide deaths and funerals. Iran's ability to hit Israel was greatly reduced in a space of 24-48 hours which is why they are going after the GCC more since its easier. The question is whether full deterrence will be established or not, their was massive declines in missile launches to Israel by day 4, but it seems the rate of decline has slowed or stopped. Best case scenario they can keep up 15-20 missile launches per day with numerous 1-2 missile salvos, will prevent Israel from opening up its airport and general economy but won't cause mass destruction and casualties. We need to be realistic at this point.

Please understand Who are the Iranian at the moment at War with? Entity and US who is the biggest and strongest? US so keep Entity Engaged and Inflict untold damage on US how you can not attack US mainland so attack it bases - Attack all those who make those bases run. make it economically unbearable for US to continue and still keep Entity engaged.

Bottomline - ENTITY is NOTHING IF US IS NOT ABLE TO SAVE IT

 

[PakSword]

any nice impacts to report? stay safe, of course.

1/8 was huge.. I don't know about the impacts as I was doing Iftari.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Americans are noticing a 20-30% increase in gas prices already

once Iran starts hitting oil/gas infrastructure rather than just blocking the Strait of Hormuz, and people realise the USN is not coming to protect ships any time soon, it will get much much more

 

[PakSword]

Can't you move somewhere a bit more inland?

I can't.. Rent too high. I am outside of the city at the moment.. My colleagues want me to stay with them as I am alone, but it's ok.

 

[ToddE]

What's the end game then ? What I don't understand is what will Iran achieve in the coming days ? Ok, you destroyed most of the equipment, damaged economic buildings of colluding states... Now what's next ?

None of the sides know what they want. This is a true stalemate situation.

Trump wants out, he is making bizarre claims of 50 ships and what not to create fake victory and claim it. Israelis have no longer got the control of their skies and are receiving cluster munition on their faces, hiding casualties through extreme censorship. They wanted Khamenei gone, IRGC fought 10 times more aggressively post his departure, might even go nuclear now that fatva is gone, thanks to Israelis. They cant invade Iran so what do they do after this ? Involve Kurds ? Iran-Turkey-Iraq willall join hands.

Iranians do not know what do they want out of this either ? continue fight to what purpose, IRGC wont get deterred and keep firing but civilian infrastructure and casualties will accumulate at USAF hands ? THAADs, bases, radarsm other assets in region no longer exist (for now), They have landed every type of missile in Israel from IRBMs, cluster warheads, hypersonic and what not. Israeli ABM/AD shield is gone but now what ?

IMO everyone wants to escape from this war now but they are waiting for one side to make the first move.

Biggest Loser of the war : (P)GCC, US's military image
Biggest Winner of the war: Russia, IRGC (the military force only)

 

[Immortals]