Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
**** quoting that racist bastard Chrchill

Trump and AIPAC prove that western democracy is a load of bollocks shin
 
Imagine if Iran had 8 Hangor and 3 A90B AIP subs right now....

I think surface ships are more of a risk against stronger opponents, they just seem like targets rather then offensive options

Submarines have always been lethal, much more difficult to hunt down, and would be a great offensive option for Iran

I think Pakistan should prioritize sub induction including nuclear powered subs above a surface fleet as long as our basic naval needs are met
 


oil markets are in for pain

Hmmm...seems like cheap oil 🛢 wont be back for a few more years...and expensive oil means the bus economy struggles and doesnt grow much, and with US currently facing economic issues and stubborn inflation, this war could lead to a serious economic crisis(trigger debt crisis?) in the US in the near future if it goes on for much longer.
 
The three carriers now arriving in the Persian Gulf may be for the purpose of assisting an amphibious assault to seize Kharg , the main Iranian oil export facility. There is chatter about this now.



What's odd is that for amphibious landing different ships are used.
There are plenty of Iranians islands before that Kharg Island that the US could seize if the US wanted a permanent US presence in the Persian Gulf / Strait of Hormuz.

With seizure of those islands, the US won't need any bases in the GCC.
 
Israel is not trying to helping Iranian protestors or opposition

It is degrading all of Iran's civilian infrastructure

Which proves once again it's goal is to set every country in region back 20 years

Because it cannot compete with them economically and militarily if it wasn't for US attacks and interventions
 
There are plenty of Iranians islands before that Kharg Island that the US could seize if the US wanted a permanent US presence in the Persian Gulf / Strait of Hormuz.

With seizure of those islands, the US won't need any bases in the GCC.
Come and seize them then, Iranians are eagerly awaiting for that
 
Conspiracy Theorist tard here trying to explain why Iran hasn't targeted Israel's strategic sites yet(lol doesn't he know that pinpoint strikes on targets are hard unless using certain warheads and the interceptors are making it hard? Also these targets are saved for last because this gets NUCLEAR quickly? Not that I'd complain, so Iran should target them now if the enemy keeps crossing red lines ) 👇👇👇


I don't understand the 'conspiracy', if there is one. Those buildings don't look like military targets. Probably nobody is there anyway. Most importantly, Israel is 2,000 KM away, and missile guidance at that distance is very difficult. They are likely missing their targets by kilometers. How can they even target a building?

e.g. https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/shahab-3/ has an accuracy of 2.5 kilometers
 

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