Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
Israel has begun targeting people they perceive to be tied to Iran’s missile program in a desperate attempt to slow rebuilding of capabilities post war

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Post-war, Iran must develop closed cities to help keep these people alive.
 
Immortals said:
Repairing plants and critical infrastructure is not the same thing as military aid or fancy weaponary. You would best tone done this pessimism.
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Remember South Pars Gas Field? Remember the Tehran Metro? Remember the Azadi Stadium? Were these projects of military nature?

The Chinese are materialistic and count every cent before they decide whether to help you or not.
 
ShapurII said:
Even worse then. How does targeting Arabs' healthcare and education infrastructure serve our interests? What does it achieve other than hatred from people, most of whom, are in fact on our side?

That's not just suicidal, that's plain stupid in my opinion.
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No arab is on our side except Shias. Read comments on X and here, majority cheers and hopes for "destruction of Iran", they deliberately downplay Iranian victories. They have been indoctrinated for decades to do be like this by Zio-Neocon mafia that runs these countries as oil-vassals.
 
Emirzad said:
Same for Israel-PGCC as well, much much more devastating for them though. Leave them be, and all this will again happen in few months.
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It won't happen again if this new Khamenei shows some balls and does the inevitable: build the f*cking bomb.

Also, these Arabs on their own are not a concern. Without the US direct involvement, none of the last two wars could've happened. If we can deter the US, these tiny states will have no choice but to normalize their ties with us and respect our dominance in the region.
 
ShapurII said:
Remember South Pars Gas Field? Remember the Tehran Metro? Remember the Azadi Stadium? Were these projects of military nature?
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Its a war, what do you expect? 5-6K hospitalized injured Jews, thousands of their homes ruined, casualties they dont say how many ... ? were they of military nature?

ShapurII said:
The Chinese are materialistic and count every cent before they decide whether to help you or not.
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Chinese have "never helped" Iran. They pay for the massive oil they get from us nonstop.
 
Emirzad said:
No arab is on our side except Shias. Read comments on X and here, majority cheers and hopes for "destruction of Iran", they deliberately downplay Iranian victories. They have been indoctrinated for decades to do be like this by Zio-Neocon mafia that runs these countries as oil-vassals.
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I have been frequenting Arab subreddits for a while. The citizens of the Emirates, Qatar, even Saudis, including the natives living there, do not hate Iran.

Also, most of these states are filled with immigrants from different parts of the world that do not hate Iran. They see Iran's attacks on the Emirates and Qatar as justified measures. The UAE subreddit is in fact quite pro-Iran.

Ironically, most of the hate towards Iran comes from Iraq and Lebanon. As for Lebanon, it is understandable. They have a large Christian and Sunni population and we dragged them into war with us. But Iraq is a different case.
 
ShapurII said:
It won't happen again if this new Khamenei shows some balls and does the inevitable: build the f*cking bomb.

Also, these Arabs on their own are not a concern. Without the US direct involvement, none of the last two wars could've happened. If we can deter the US, these tiny states will have no choice but to normalize their ties with us and respect our dominance in the region.
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They are a few million people (the small gcc). The education and research centers built by US or with US shares should be destroyed to create deterrence against killing of Iranian scientists and attacking our universities.

They claimed Iranian islands and are falsifying geographical names such as persian gulf. Enough reasons to bomb them back to 1920.
 
ShapurII said:
Even worse then. How does targeting Arabs' healthcare and education infrastructure serve our interests? What does it achieve other than hatred from people, most of whom, are in fact on our side?

That's not just suicidal, that's plain stupid in my opinion.
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It is what it is. There have been no uprisings except in Bahrain. Just as public opinion in the US is irrelevant, the opinions of the people in those countries is irrelevant to state policy. The logic is the same as the logic in bombing Iranian civilian targets - pressure the civilian populace to pressure their governments to end the war. As far as it being suicidal, they are already targeting Iranian hospitals, schools, energy fields, desalinization plants, residential neighborhoods, and now power plants. They are doing that regardless of what Iran does.
 
Emirzad said:
Its a war, what do you expect? 5-6K hospitalized injured Jews, thousands of their homes ruined, casualties they dont say how many ... ? were they of military nature?



Chinese have "never helped" Iran. They pay for the massive oil they get from us nonstop.
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You totally misread and misunderstood my post.

I was referring to the projects that were offered to the Chinese but the Chinese never accepted to participate in them. Then there's the North Expressway that the Chinese never finished after years of working on it.

I'm saying that Iran should not count on the Chinese for quick reconstruction. It will take years to reconstruct destroyed power plants, if it ever comes to that.
 
The incomparable Trita Parsi is saying a window for de-escalation may run out after 2-3 weeks and Iran should strike a bargain while ahead for a long term solution and that Iran should not 'over play' its card.
[Iran could come out ahead from this war if cards played right]

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