Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[EugeneP]

Other than that I believe that toilet malfunction or laundry fire was no accident. They don't want to fight and die for isreal. Someone did that to stop Gerald Ford joining the war.

Even they are malfunctions, really. The 'laundry' fire was a ventilation duct fire likely started in a laundry and spread around via the ducts. I have read a report that the toilet problem was due to bad design to conserve water, similar to problems we see with low flow toilets in recently built homes.

 

[RescueRanger]

@Waffa hello,

You are a new member here. Please refrain from discussing religious posts in military and geo-political threads. As this is not permitted as per our forum rules.

You have been advised about this behaviour. Please kindly do not post off topic commentary again, as doing so will result in liss of your posting privilidges here on the forum.

Thanks.

 

[Immortals]

@Kyussis
I can't understand why Iran is dependant on kharg island for 90% of it's oil exports? All the Irani oil is present on that island ? Iran has a huge coastal line why that one island ?

Persian gulf is shallow

VLCC tanker very big

Hard for tanker to come to shore

Easy to load on Island instead

 

[Navid09]

#BREAKING: Hezbollah Fighters Raise Flags in Israeli Territory – Kiryat Shmona Partially Captured, IDF in Retreat
Hezbollah forces have broken through Israeli defenses and are now raising their flags inside the strategic northern town of Kiryat Shmona.
Israeli Channel 13 is confirming that parts of the town and its main IDF base are under Hezbollah control. Local residents are fleeing in panic as fighting continues in the streets.
This marks the first time a significant Israeli population center has come under direct Hezbollah control during active conflict.
The Israeli army is reported to be retreating from several positions to avoid further losses. The Home Front Command has ordered immediate evacuation of remaining civilians in the area.
Iranian state media hailed the advance as “the resistance breaking the Zionist lines.”
(Sources: Channel 13 Israel, Al Jazeera correspondents, Hezbollah military media, geolocated videos – verification ongoing.)
#HezbollahInKiryatShmona #IsraelLosingGround #NorthernIsraelInvasion #BreakingNews
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This appears to be fake

 

[SecularNationalist]

Even they are malfunctions, really. The 'laundry' fire was a ventilation duct fire likely started in a laundry and spread around via the ducts. I have read a report that the toilet problem was due to bad design to conserve water, similar to problems we see with low flow toilets in recently built homes.

Btw as an American what's your opinion on this war?

 

[Immortals]

Iron dome rocket malfunctions and almost kills settler

 

[EugeneP]

@Kyussis
I can't understand why Iran is dependant on kharg island for 90% of it's oil exports? All the Irani oil is present on that island ? Iran has a huge coastal line why that one island ?

They use that Island to load large crude carriers. It is a major investment to build a berth to accommodate very large crude carriers and pump huge amount of oil. Iran decided to use that Island as a common port to fill the tankers. Most likely, oil is pumped from several points on the coast to that island which holds the oil before transferring to tankers.

 

[Immortals]

IDF: total confirmed IDF casualties in Lebanon since the beginning of the war to 54, including 10 killed and 44 injured

 

[Navid09]

It's all or nothing as you said.

On a side note, if Iran is not going to build the bomb after all this, then maybe it's better that the regime gives up before Iran is destroyed. Once we go down the path of attrition warfare, it will be impossible to stop it without suffering severe infrastructure damages. And unlike Ukraine, we will not be gifted $300 billion to keep fighting.

I have been saying that Iran needs nukes on this forum for more than 15 years, since when I was a very young teenager with very little knowledge about the world affairs. Back then, I thought of it as something that Iran needed to do for its prestige and for cementing our status as a power. 15 years later, nothing has changed about my opinion except that this time Iran's survival is at stake and without nukes, we're cooked.

Even if we win this round, they won't leave us alone. They'll continue their isolation and economic pressure, this time will even add reparations to it, until we implode from within. Only nukes can stop this cycle of war and internal instability.

i agree with nukes. but nukes dont stop sanctions. they just help control the escalation ladder.

also even with nukes they can attack iran. countries with nukes have all been attacked. its just the enemy knows they cant go too far.

so if we had nukes 6 years ago, iran could have responded harder to soleimani attack which would have potentially deterred further attacks.

but even if the subsequent attacks against iran still happened, they could respond harder each time imposing equal or more damage

 

[RescueRanger]

EA 37B now headed East from CONUSA to RAF maidenhall (UK) - likely to deploy in theater CENTCOM AOR.

 

[Kyussis]

@Kyussis
I can't understand why Iran is dependant on kharg island for 90% of it's oil exports? All the Irani oil is present on that island ? Iran has a huge coastal line why that one island ?

Khark Island is used to load the oil onto tankers. It can handle 8-9 super tankers at the same time. Iran is not dependant on khark but it is Iran's major hub. During the Iran Iraq war the Iraqi air force attacked Khark island over 6000 times during the "Tanker war" . Iran established a convoy to ship Iranian oil from khark Island using Iranian tankers to transfer to foreign customers tankers out of reach of IrAF closer to Straight of Hormoz.

 

[Immortals]

 

[SABRE]

I didn't know it was banned. I would say you can use a VPN and then the Telegram app should work.

Nops. It seems Telegram requires a phone number to send a verification/login code via text. It never seems to arrive on Pakistani numbers. Unless I am missing something.

 

[EugeneP]

Btw as an American what's your opinion on this war?

Politically and strategically, it seems poorly planned, does not have strong legal leg to stand on etc., But operationally, they seem to have done an excellent job with really few losses for a war of this size. Very few 'friendly fire' incidents, no major targeting blunders other than that school. All in all, a good job. But it will always remain questionable if whatever goals of the war are not achieved in a reasonable time and cost. My fear is it will turn into a shapeless, purposeless, endless war like Vietnam. Past history of wars in that area is not encouraging. Iran-Iraq war, Iraq war of 2003, Afghanistan war all ended up becoming wars of attrition. Only the Gulf war of 1991 was a 'good war' with limited goals that ended quickly. I think it is the 'Best war' of my lifetime, if such a thing can exist.

 

[Immortals]