Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Meengla said:
Trump's 9 PM EST (NYC) time speech was a total Nothing Burger! He basically repeated the same things he has been saying for past few weeks. And I dare say, this 'speech' was some Plan B Speech because his original original Plan A Speech was disapproved by Netanyahu.
Even Trump wouldn't be wasting Americans' time with a speech like this after building up the hype.
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I saw it as the speech he should have given before starting the war or at least after the war started 32 days back, not that it is a substitute for proper Congressional action. He did gin up a charge sheet starting from Beirut bombing, Cole bombing, "Death to America/Israel", October 7th etc., He made an OK attempt at arguing an Iran with nuke would have led to apocalypse. I think at least a few of the listeners who were not well schooled in the history of the region may feel convinced (to support the war).
 
r4hmed said:
The trump presser was a massive nothingburger
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Not a complete nothingburger. He did not say anything about ground troops or about action to take out enriched Uranium etc., By omission, we may think it is not in the works as it was being speculated. For what it is worth, if one has to go by his words (not advisable), it will be a continuation of air war for a few more weeks and then may reach a low intensity 'maintenance' mode.
 
Kyussis said:
Imagine flying CAS missions over Iran while having to fly from Jordan. They would have to conduct in flight refueling then fly for hours just to get into position. loiter for a bit doing close air support and head back, conduct inflight refueling again to make it back to Jordan. Think of the toll that takes on the pilot and airframe. They have to fly 3-4 hours+ both ways just to do a limited CAS. They might not even be in position when they are needed.
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They need to survive MANPADS first before they can do CAS.
 
RocketLaw said:
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Bhai imagine the years long BS these guys in the western media fed us about intercepting 90% of Iranian drones/ missiles and whatnot. The uncomfortable facts though are that 90% of Irani missiles n drones went right thru the defensive screen and have devastated the whole GCC and Israel.

Iran has almost dismantled the colonial era architecture in the region.

My only gripe here is that Pakistan was just woefully unprepared for this dire situation we are facing as a country now.
 
Hakwa Nadro said:
definitely not innocent but i think you guys are giving too much credit to the size of saudi balls.
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If Saudi Arabia is helpless against the U.S they can call upon the 1.5 billion Muslims world wide to Carry out the ultimate Jihad and free them from U.S occupation. They haven't done that though because they are happy with being the Zionists Bitch as long as they are fat and rich.
 
Immortals said:
Ground game was always coming. The airstrikes were meant to soften resistance.

You don’t move 18 A-10s into field of battle if you don’t plan on a ground game
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They are being deployed to Jordan. Not exactly the field of battle. Its kind of complicated when you have to fly 1000km to be in position to conduct CAS in an aircraft with a normal combat radius of 470km.
 
URGENT: Reports confirm that central Israel, including Bnei Brak and Tel Aviv, has been targeted by Iranian ballistic missiles carrying cluster warheads. Emergency services have responded to multiple impact sites,

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black_cats said:
BREAKING: Televangelist Paula White compares Trump to Jesus because they were both “betrayed and arrested and falsely accused.”

This person is employed by the White House.

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People like this are so sad, because if they only knew that deep down Trump is sickened by them and everything they stand for.
 
Persian Gulf said:
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When will Iran's leadership finally wake up?
The Epstein gang sees peace negotiations and ceasefires as nothing more than traps for surprise attacks and assassinations.
If they negotiate, they'll be killed; if they agree to a nuclear deal, they'll be bombed; if they agree to a ceasefire, they'll be ambushed.
A quick look at history reveals that no war ends with a half-hearted ceasefire.
Once a war begins, it can only end with a complete defeat for one side; the only exceptions are wars like the Vietnam War and the Korean War, where both sides fought to the death but remained evenly matched.
Abandon the illusion that wars can end through negotiation; such a convenient outcome has never happened in history.
It's time for both Iran's mullahs and secularists to accept that wars can never be stopped through compromise or concessions.
 
Goenitz said:
at least NATO gives the US legitimacy for its actions around the world and in the UN. US projection will diminish as the EU will align with China and compromise with Russia, as a result.
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NATO is a alliance which is mandated to Defend Europe and North America. The constitution of NATO does not allow the type of unilateral action taken by the USA
 
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