Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[lightning f57]

Latest tally of Operation Epstein Fury objectives:

Regime change -> failure
Secure nuclear material -> failure
Protect regional allies -> failure
Destroy Irans missile and drone making capabilities -> unknown
Open Straits of Hormuz -> failure
Destroy civilian infrastructure and cause further economic pain -> in-progress
Destroy Irans ability to support the resistance -> unknown
Kill kids and innocent people -> success

 

[Yasser76]

UN has become just another OIC. Totally worthless.

Gaza proved that

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Russia doesn't have that many options left. Even if they sign a deal with Trump, it will last only 3 years at best, assuming that the Congress and the Senate would not eventually intervene in Putin's love affair with Trump.

Russia's only remaining card to stay relevant on the international stage is their UNSC permanent seat. Without that, Russia is nothing but a regional power at this point.

Also, the tide has turned in the US and the chance of electing another Republican president after Trump is getting exponentially lower by every passing month.

Well, Russia doesn't like other US establishment presidents because they only prioritize the American interest first, and doesn't really care about the lives of other white christians.

They are betting on the wrong person like Trump and believed that he was different from US presidents, and would have strong sense to unify the entire white christian world.

Most people in China expect that Russia will become the staunch defender of the white christian world if they see that the US can no longer stand against China on its own.

However, Trump is a proven charlatan, not their expected truthful ally to defend the white christian world.

 

[Ibbi32]

Is f-15 loss confirmed

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I dont get why you would consider Zion on its own. It's a nothing burger, IT has few natural resources and in the absence of American support would be nothing more than a Jordan. Its an artificial country that only exists on charity from west without that the would be busty musty. They went bankrupt in 1992 and were bailed out. Hamas a militia at best would have taken all of Zion had america and west not supported Zion with weapons and logistics etc.

Everything you say... and yet it happens in spite of and not because of...
Who else has singlehandedly kept the world on edge and committed a genocide for all to see...
And no one did anything... no one!

Doesn't everyone know their colonial presence over Palestinians?
So, yes... everyone does for one reason or another keeps complying, conceding, submitting.
Until they don't... let's get to that point.

 

[Mohid Afzal]

Biz class on BA from London to Cape Town is usually around £8k-9k, now at £12,400 ($15,000)......

US collegues now told to fly Premium Economy or Economy when crossing the Pond.

This is starting to hurt not just at the pumps...

As the war drags on, it will continue to hurt more and more.

 

[ety]

China would do well to demonstrate some common sense for a change and veto this proposal. This proposal will has enough legal legs in it to allow for a legal attacks on Iran under the guise of "defence"(Which it self is an arbitrary term).

If they insist on using collection of military forces to open the strait, my guess is China and also Russia likely veto.

 

[retaxis]

"Estimates suggest the Mongol Empire, under Genghis Khan and his successors, killed approximately 40 million people during their 13th and 14th-century conquests. These invasions, spanning 22% of Earth's land, depopulated massive regions and caused total casualties, including significant losses in Persia and China, such as two to fifteen million during the Khwarazmian conquest."

Even worse, a war 200 years ago only in China that killed almost as many as WW2

"The Taiping Rebellion (1850–1864) is considered the deadliest war in Chinese history and one of the deadliest in world history, with estimated deaths between 20 and 30 million, potentially reaching 70 million due to related famine and disease."

As for the middle east, including Iran etc, its been in a constant state of war for 5000 years.

War is the one thing that all humans do and will default to.

Of the 10 deadliest wars by death toll, excluding the world wars as they were pretty much everyone, the only ones involving European were the Spanish conquests of the Americas, the rest is all Chinese and one Timurids (Afghan/Iranians).

The Chinese one was directly due to the West trying to colonise China

 

[ShapurII]

Man you buy apt there in high rise for half a mill and sit on it for 5 years and it doubles no? How many of your friends bought into that hood? I know a few who bought in different north Tehran hoods and were doing well until this war started.

Iran real estate will do great provided Iran wins this war on its terms.

Every man n his dog will invest in north Tehran when Iran conclusively wins this and all those billions invested in DXB/ Abu-Donkey/ Manama/ Istanbul come gushing into Tehran.

Your average Iranian cannot buy a property in that neighborhood. Prices are super high for Iranian salaries. I do have a friend that is in the construction sector and has built apartments there, but he inherited his business from his father.

Yes, there are even apartments where the price approaches 1 million USD or more. Some of these apartments and residential towers are insane by the European standards.

If you want to see real luxury buildings in Iran, you have to go to private towns in the Lavasan County in Tehran or the northern cities of Iran. You can find even 10 million dollar villas there.

The price in Iranian Rial doubles every one or two years recently, but that's only because of the devaluation of our currency. The USD price fluctuates a bit, but not that much in the long run.

The problem with Iran is lack of social freedoms. If Iran had a more tourist friendly government with laxed laws like Dubai or Istanbul, we could've attracted a lot of foreign investment in our real estate sector.

Right now the real estate in Tehran is nosediving because of the war though.

 

[Lulldapull]

Gaza proved that

UN went to hell back in the 90's during the Yugoslav civil war......it completely lost its legitimacy and then the massive blows of Afghan/ Iraq/ Libya/ Syria debacles. What a joke UN is today.

It should be dissolved ASAP since its a worthless entity that cannot enforce law n order.

 

[Aryan_B]

Both Russia and India are all pro-Israel which is an open fact.

Fuk indians they are pro Israel and white people but thats because of their inferiority complex of being ruled by Muslims for 1000 years and then by Brits,

With Russia its very interesting. They are white and think they are white but America and western Europe has always considered them as mongrels.

Remember what American General Patton said about Russia

“The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.”

Statement by Patton on 8 August 1945, as quoted in “General Patton : A Soldier’s Life” (2002) by Stanley P. Hirshson, p. 650

So see Russia feels aggrieved all Putin and Russia want is to be treated as white. Not only that Putin has stated that half of Israel speak Russian.

For non white even China its very risky to trust Russia, The minute that west treats Russa fairly and white they will throw non white under the bus,

I was pushing a China Pakistan Iran alliance over 10 years ago on old PDF but sadly Iran found solace in India and Russia but hopefully wil have learned lesson now. To be fair Pakistan's economic state and corrupt leaders leaned towards dirty smelly Arab leaders who have been appointed by west which hasnt helped either

 

[PakFactor]

So, instead of dealing with the action they want to deal with the reaction.

Working UN retroactively to process fallout. Useless and waste of time when the global order under its conventions have been tossed out as piece of trash.

That, and it raises the question of their own capabilities and how they've spent their nation's treasure, since you have to call for a global coalition to open your own waterways in your own backyard.

In any sensible population, this should raise eyebrows.

[More so, it should now lay bare why the GCC isn't ready to confront the regional power.]

 

[ParthianLord]

Iran destroyed yesterday the main factory of Israel´s Aero Sol, they produced the main drone components for several Israeli Drones

 

[kobra]

@RescueRanger my eyes will be on the Russian vote.

What we will vote? Considering that our flag bearer ships are passing easily and iranis have thanked us in rallies.

 

[ShapurII]

Well, Russia doesn't like other US establishment presidents because they only prioritize the American interest first, and doesn't really care about the lives of other white christians.

They are betting on the wrong person like Trump and believed that he was different from US presidents, and would have strong sense to unify the entire white christian world.

Most people in China expect that Russia will become the staunch defender of the white christian world if they see that the US can no longer stand against China on its own.

However, Trump is a proven charlatan, not their expected truthful ally to defend the white christian world.

Historically speaking, the Russians have had a long fascination with Europe since Peter the Great but they have never been accepted by the Europeans.

They will try their best to get accepted by them again, just like Ukrainians are doing so now at the cost of their future, but it will be in vain in my opinion. Last time they tried this was during the tandemocracy period by Medvedev. And they failed miserably again.

The world is going through a serious shift and the United Nations is no longer seen as a governing body able to keep the world peace. Once the UN meets its fate like the League of Nations, the relevance of most of these European powers will vanish in the blink of an eye.