Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Asif]

China has sided with the Emirates on our 3 islands and you think we should give them a military base there? Seriously?

And besides that, do you seriously think that giving China a military base in the south of Iran obliges them to fight the US for us? Again, seriously?

brother read my post again..
I myself said, China would leech iran for a deal.
I am aware of china's stance but China is all about business, give them a deal they cant refuse as long as it provides security to iran in areas where they are deficient. e.g. adecade long 15% discount of prevailing oil prices or development of South Pars LNG complex with exclusive rt to purchase or sell 50% peoduct. The later would be better as Qatar shares that field and developing it a breathtaking pace.

It's a question of what u can afford now in this war vs where u want to be in 10 yrs

 

[Aziqbal]

Breaking:

Looks like it was NOT F15 Strike Eagle but rather a 5th generation F35 again targeted using Iranian IRST?

Interesting to note the number of shot downs of Epstein and Zionist regimes are increasing why is that

Iran has taken heavy blows in the early stages of the war and now Iran is starting to come back because that was the strategy all along

And we are not counting the number of drones

Seems like Iran is using Air Defence Ambush tactics (ADA), Surface-to-air missile unit hides with radar off, turns on briefly to fire and then immediately move location

could be Irans own home built Khordad mobile air defence system

Iran shares photos of F-35 wreckage; analysts say images show F-15 tail sections - Türkiye Today

Iran's IRGC claims it downed a second US F-35 over central Iran, publishes debris images with RAF Lakenheath markings; claim unconfirmed by Pentagon

www.turkiyetoday.com

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

EXACTLY!

One example of the duplicitous behaviour of putin is that after September the 11th 2001, putin publicly stated that russia, europe and america are all one white christian european union against the evil dark-skinned Muslim threat from the East. A LOT of Muslims tend to overlook this fact.

A lot of Chinese also view Russia as an ally to against the western colonist.

However, they also fail to see that Russia is just one of them, but getting outcasted by its fellow colonists.

But fortunately, China's top leaders are always level-headed about Russia.

 

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[ShapurII]

brother read my post again..
I myself said, China would leech iran for a deal.
I am aware of china's stance but China is all about business, give them a deal they cant refuse as long as it provides security to iran in areas where they are deficient. e.g. adecade long 15% discount of prevailing oil prices or development of South Pars LNG complex with exclusive rt to purchase or sell 50% peoduct. The later would be better as Qatar shares that field and developing it a breathtaking pace.

It's a question of what u can afford now in this war vs where u want to be in 10 yrs

China has been offered plenty of good deals over the years, including the opportunity to develop South Pars Field with Iran, they were interested in none of them due to US sanctions.

Iran can never convince the Chinese to side with Iran when the Chinese trade volume with the US is north of $400 billion.

 

[baqai]

This also shows importance of having fighter jets with long range BVR weapons. Both US and Israel are using stand off weapons which shows they dont completely control the skys, a fighter jet with those long claws would give them more losses and prevent allot of the civilian infrastructure destruction we have seen.

Iran strategised a war without an airforce or navy, knowing the economic and civilian cost which tells us they can continue fighting like this for a long while.

bvr or wvr would not matter if they were painted by SAM, yes i agree that unlike what's being claimed they DO NOT have unrestricted control of the air space, they are vulnerable

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I wish Iranians throw away their pride for a bit, and allow China to open a naval base at either Kish, Hangam or Lara islands that are around Qeshm Island... rt at the mouth of striat.
China would take a leeching deal to bite this at this point in time... but if they do.. then there is no way anyone would attack the miniscule Greater and lesser tunb or abu must island nearby. Secondly, territorial integrity of Iran will get a boost.

A difficult decision that Iran should conside

If China is also bloodsucking, then you cannot find any other viable major partner in this world.

China is always selling the products with same quality and quantity for less money.

 

[Aryan_B]

What we will vote? Considering that our flag bearer ships are passing easily and iranis have thanked us in rallies.

Our vote dont count

It may sound rude, apologies for that....no one wants to go live in China unless it's absolutely necessary... besides , Assad family is in Russia... soulmates?

Bollocks I visited China twice and have travelled quite a bit. Loved loved China and would be happy to live there if I get the chance

You need to check out all local laws as well. For example a indian diplomat a few years ago who probably thought living in America was great until she was arrested and given a cavity search. I couldn't believe it but I checked out and if you are arrested even for a traffic offence and they have no reason to suspect anything they can still ask you to spread. I have been to US but had I know that I would never gone anyway near US

Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade, who was strip-searched and had to undergo a body cavity search, was insulted and humiliated like a hardened drug addict or someone who was known to transport illegal drugs.

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/131...devyani-khobragade-was-insulted-humiliated-us

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China has been offered plenty of good deals over the years, including the opportunity to develop South Pars Field with Iran, they were interested in none of them due to US sanctions.

Iran can never convince the Chinese to side with Iran when the Chinese trade volume with the US is north of $400 billion.

Even the US think tank believes that China and the US are currently decoupling.

China no longer buys US exports: Drawing the right lessons for the next Trump-Xi deal

China essentially stopped buying US exports in April 2025. President Donald Trump had started his second term by launching a new trade war that he headlined with steep new tariffs on China. When China retaliated, US goods shipments to the world’s third largest importing economy fell to levels...

www.piie.com

China's top leadership and its people are ready to decouple, only those special interest groups (akin to Iran's reformists) are still clinging with the US relationship.

However, these people are becoming more marginalized/sidelined day by day.

 

[ParthianLord]

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[Aziqbal]

Yesterday Iran simultaneously launched over 20 x ballistic missiles in a synchronised co-ordinated attack on Iran

In Week 5 its astonishing that Iran can get 20 x launchers together fire and get back into the tunnels underground

So what has America and Israel been hitting in Iran all these days and months , mountains and civilian infrastructure

Iran is very much not only in this fight, but it seems like Iran is starting to turn up the tempo of operations and taking the fight to the Epstein and Zionist regimes

Hats off to the Iranians who have a average IQ of 105 and 7,500 year civilisation and
showing the arrogant pedophiles with IQ of 65 which has a 200 year history of slavery, murder, stealing and rape

Central Israel hit by one of Iran’s largest missile barrages in weeks

One of Iran’s largest missile barrages in weeks injured at least 14 people and caused damage across several Israel.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[ShapurII]

Even the US think tank believes that China and the US are currently decoupling.

China no longer buys US exports: Drawing the right lessons for the next Trump-Xi deal

China essentially stopped buying US exports in April 2025. President Donald Trump had started his second term by launching a new trade war that he headlined with steep new tariffs on China. When China retaliated, US goods shipments to the world’s third largest importing economy fell to levels...

www.piie.com

China's top leadership and its people are ready to decouple, only those special interest groups (akin to Iran's reformists) are still clinging with the US relationship.

However, these people are becoming marginalized/sidelined day by day.

At the end of the day, it's 400 billion dollars per year! It's even more than Iran's nominal GDP at this point. Add the Chinese trade volume with anti-Iran Arabs to the equation as well.

Iran has no economic incentives to offer to China while it is under severe international sanctions. Our trade volume was exploding back in 2008, when Ahmadinejad was in power and the 4th round of UNSC sanctions hadn't been passed. Our trade volume was approaching $40 billion and was expected to surpass $100 billion in the next 10 years. Had China vetoed the UNSC resolutions, Iran and China could've been economic partners today.

That aside, I don't blame the Chinese for favoring their trade with the US over Iran at this point. My main issue with the CCP is their lack of willingness to say no when they can, like at the UN Security Council.

Also, when I compare China in early 2000s to today's China, I think China has become increasingly more West-leaning. I don't think this would change any time soon.

 

[Master Chief]

Yup, and the head of the Chaplin Corps advises on ethics, so I guess we know why he went...

Am sure you meant "Chaplain" not "Chaplin"....

...although the panicked way in which US is currently embarking upon its military offensive does lend itself to your original statement being completely appropriate.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

At the end of the day, it's 400 billion dollars per year! It's even more than Iran's nominal GDP at this point. Add the Chinese trade volume with anti-Iran Arabs to the equation as well.

Iran has no economic incentives to offer to China while it is under severe international sanctions. Our trade volume was exploding back in 2008, when Ahmadinejad was in power and the 4th round of UNSC sanctions hadn't been passed. Our trade volume was approaching $40 billion and was expected to surpass $100 billion in the next 10 years. Had China vetoed the UNSC resolutions, Iran and China could've been economic partners today.

That aside, I don't blame the Chinese for favoring their trade with the US over Iran at this point. My main issue with the CCP is their lack of willingness to say no when they can, like at the UN Security Council.

Also, when I compare China in early 2000s to today's China, I think China has become increasingly more West-leaning. I don't think this would change any time soon.

In this era, the geopolitics should have higher priority than the economics.

Since the current global economy is already crap, and even you are striving for a better economy, you wouldn't get much better in result.

Most Chinese nationalists realize that ally with Iran could offer greater long term benefits than keep this toxic relationship with the US.

In fact, the China during 2000s was more pro-west than the current China with rising nationalism.

During the 2000s, China was fully controlled by the pro-west reformists, and these people have losing their power to the rising neo-nationalists, but they are still doing whatever they can to prevent China to fully decouple with the US.

However, everything will be in vain as China will fully decouple with the US, also to fully dominate them in all high tech domains.

 

[rafale]

everyone saying its F15 Strike Eagle

but 493rd Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheat flies F35 not F15?

so this is most likely a F35 did iRan use IRST again ?

People have identified it from 335th fighter squadorn.

Americans must be calling Indians on how to cope..............how to claim the pic is AI generated and what not.

Indians are masters of copium, can lend a hand or two to USAF here.

On a side note, there goes the unbeaten combat record of F-15s.........