Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

The myth of US Air Force invincibility was developed and placed into the narrative for decades. Mainly because the US flew missions in uncontested airspace.

Let’s not forget that tiny Serbia shot down US jets in 1999, using older Yugoslav AD systems.

Shooting down an A10 is easy, they are loud and slow, same with those helicopters and C-130s.

Excellent work by Iran today!
 
A fuel tanker aircraft has declared an emergency over Palestinian airspace.

The distress call was announced at the Iraqi-Iranian border - now it is over Palestinian airspace.
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Ali_Baba said:
My list ..

Item 1 - 1 x F15 Downed - confirmed
Item 2 -1 x F16 CJ - possibly hit(issued emergency returning from Iraq) and crashed in Iraq? Status Unknown.
Item 3 -1 x A-10 Hit and crashed as per this post.
Item 4 -1 x A-10 Hit but limped back to Iraq.
Item 5 -1 x Black Hawk - hit, but limped home.
Item 6 -1 x F35 - news of a hit, but very vague, unlikely to be true as of now. Limped home ok?
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Important point is that with fast jets, the hits were most probably from mobile MRSAM potentially with IR guidance to avoid being targets of ARMs.

Iran needs to build up a large force of these mobile “shoot and scoot” MRSAM systems when the war is over. They probably already started the process before the war started.
 
Persian Gulf said:
some corrections:

US did not admit A-10 was hit by Iran, just that it crashed near the Strait of Hormuz

No evidence the F-16 was hit by Iran. in fact, it issued its emergency signal on the Iraq/KSA border, far from Iran.
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good enough if its out of commission and operationally out of service.

nothing will change that fact whether it was a bird hit or friendly fire or technical fault.

hoping to see the humbling and demise of American Hemogenic policy across the globe in my life
 
Forsvaret said:
No, but given US / Israel’s past of using negotiations with Iran as a ruse to buy time for attack makes it deceptive. Pakistan knowing that is pushing for "negotiations" again. 🙄
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Every person and their dog know that the only reason Trump wanted Ceasefire or Negotiations is to buy time, i don't know why you keep bringing Pakistan into this picture.

We are not pushing for anything, we are acting as a third party communication channels on a ground where both sides are comfortable with
 
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Jets so far.. doesn’t include transport/cargo/tankers planes/ Ew in saudi or blackhawk…
 
Aryan_B said:
But but Orange buffoon said Iran had no AD lol
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So it is highly likely that most of the attacks in iran are carried out from stand off range or drones…. Iran airspace is still contested
 
baqai said:
We are not pushing for anything, we are acting as a third party communication channels on a ground where both sides are comfortable with
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Ok. In that case, Iran just officially rejected the offer of talks with American officials in Islamabad.
 
Abdul q said:
So it is highly likely that most of the attacks in iran are carried out from stand off range or drones…. Iran airspace is still contested
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we still see US bombers using stand off stealth JASSM cruise missiles

but these are expensive and they have used a very large number of them already, it's not sustainable
 
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