Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

omegalamba7xl9 said:
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Something here can anyone verify it to be true?
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it’s a legit videos, but two days old, that’s what we’re talking about here on the thread, that Iranian police and locals are shooting at the helicopters, but the soldiers are nowhere to be found
 
Persian Gulf said:
if the US truly rescued this bastard, then Trump will certainly launch a very bold ground invasion. and by this evidence, Artesh and IRGC have zero preparedness or competence to counter such an invasion, and it will go extremely badly for Iran.
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The same mood made him attack Iran, after kidnapping Maduro. But it turned out very bad for him. If he wants to gamble again, it can turn out bad again.

We should not let our mood turn negative after shooting down 2 jets, damaging helicopter (wounding crew) and another A-10 in 1 single day. We do have to learn from mistakes and improve, war itself is a learning proces.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Considering that there are 300,000 regular soldiers, this performance of not being able to shoot down the helicopters is very poor. Of all the things, helicopters should not have that amount of freedom… there has been sufficient time to reinforce that area with armed soldiers to make any rescue attempt impossible.

Reports of helicopters have been going on for hours.

This will encourage and embolden the Americans that they can operate that freely, not discourage them.
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300,000 active army ground force soldiers

+ 150,000 IRGC ground force soldiers

+ 500,000 Basij

+ up to 350,000 police officers
 
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From 30 mins ago…everyone is citing the same source: Jack murphy

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shapurzolaktaf said:
The same mood made him attack Iran, after kidnapping Maduro. But it turned out very bad for him. If he wants to gamble again, it can turn out bad again.

We should not let our mood turn negative after shooting down 2 jets, damaging helicopter (wounding crew) and another A-10 in 1 single day.
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if all we achieved from this is that the US went deep into the same area in Iran 2 days in a row with helicopters and rescued both pilots alive with no deaths among their rescue forces

then it would be better not to shoot them down in the first place. we suspected Iranian ground forces were not prepared for any ground incursions, now we know it for sure.

anything is possible now.

but nothing is confirmed yet, so there is still a small hope that the air force and artesh are not all on holiday.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Considering that there are 300,000 regular soldiers, this performance of not being able to shoot down the helicopters is very poor. Of all the things, helicopters should not have that amount of freedom… there has been sufficient time to reinforce that area with armed soldiers to make any rescue attempt impossible.

Reports of helicopters have been going on for hours.

This will encourage and embolden the Americans that they can operate that freely, not discourage them.
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No, because if you fill the area with soldiers it could be a trap to launch a bomb and kill them there (the same tactic they could use on Karg Island). Iran has already shot down several aircraft and helicopters from yesterday to today (there are reports of another one a few minutes ago). Those doing this are militias; the Iranian armed forces haven't even engaged in combat and it's not necessary.

NOTE: Another factor is that helicopter fuel (for warfare) has a short lifespan, only enough for 2 to 4 hours of typical flight (combat, without refueling). Internal tank + reserve. Therefore, the idea of a helicopter remaining in one location for more than 3 or 4 hours is already false.
 
Absolute disgrace for iran. Even if some of those wounded Americans are killed in process without shooting down another aircraft or capturing another American it will be a complete failure of iranians to respond
 
Persian Gulf said:
300,000 active army ground force soldiers

+ 150,000 IRGC ground force soldiers

+ 500,000 Basij

+ up to 350,000 police officers
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They are not present at every KM of the country , rather more in urban areas and important sites. The problem here was a rural area and less mobility compared to the Americans. Another major advantage the US has is night vision.

Take all the achievements of the past days into account, not just the F15 crew rescue.
 
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Watandar said:
They are not present at every KM of the country , rather more in urban areas and important sites. The problem here was a rural area and less mobility compared to the Americans.
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they knew about this area for > 30 hours

this area is close to 4 air force bases

it's not a small border town, it's in central Iran between two massive Iranian cities
 
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