Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

From 30 mins ago…everyone is citing the same source: Jack murphy

 

[Persian Gulf]

The same mood made him attack Iran, after kidnapping Maduro. But it turned out very bad for him. If he wants to gamble again, it can turn out bad again.

We should not let our mood turn negative after shooting down 2 jets, damaging helicopter (wounding crew) and another A-10 in 1 single day.

if all we achieved from this is that the US went deep into the same area in Iran 2 days in a row with helicopters and rescued both pilots alive with no deaths among their rescue forces

then it would be better not to shoot them down in the first place. we suspected Iranian ground forces were not prepared for any ground incursions, now we know it for sure.

anything is possible now.

but nothing is confirmed yet, so there is still a small hope that the air force and artesh are not all on holiday.

 

[Bharatah]

Considering that there are 300,000 regular soldiers, this performance of not being able to shoot down the helicopters is very poor. Of all the things, helicopters should not have that amount of freedom… there has been sufficient time to reinforce that area with armed soldiers to make any rescue attempt impossible.

Reports of helicopters have been going on for hours.

This will encourage and embolden the Americans that they can operate that freely, not discourage them.

No, because if you fill the area with soldiers it could be a trap to launch a bomb and kill them there (the same tactic they could use on Karg Island). Iran has already shot down several aircraft and helicopters from yesterday to today (there are reports of another one a few minutes ago). Those doing this are militias; the Iranian armed forces haven't even engaged in combat and it's not necessary.

NOTE: Another factor is that helicopter fuel (for warfare) has a short lifespan, only enough for 2 to 4 hours of typical flight (combat, without refueling). Internal tank + reserve. Therefore, the idea of a helicopter remaining in one location for more than 3 or 4 hours is already false.

 

[Ibbi32]

Absolute disgrace for iran. Even if some of those wounded Americans are killed in process without shooting down another aircraft or capturing another American it will be a complete failure of iranians to respond

 

[Watandar]

300,000 active army ground force soldiers

+ 150,000 IRGC ground force soldiers

+ 500,000 Basij

+ up to 350,000 police officers

They are not present at every KM of the country , rather more in urban areas and important sites. The problem here was a rural area and less mobility compared to the Americans. Another major advantage the US has is night vision.

Take all the achievements of the past days into account, not just the F15 crew rescue.

 

[Persian Gulf]

They are not present at every KM of the country , rather more in urban areas and important sites. The problem here was a rural area and less mobility compared to the Americans.

they knew about this area for > 30 hours

this area is close to 4 air force bases

it's not a small border town, it's in central Iran between two massive Iranian cities

 

[RescueRanger]

didnt they say they rescued one of the pilots on Friday?

F15 has two crew a Pilot and a weapons systems officer.

 

[Ibbi32]

Forget everything buy manpads and shorads in bulk From russia chinq north korea

 

[Bharatah]

Drone attack on the US "Qsarq" base in Syria : News sources report a new drone attack on the US "Qsarak" base in the outskirts of Hasakah, Syria.

 

[Falcon29]

Oh boy

 

[koolio]

 

[clutch]

China will be the biggest winner of this Iran war as the globe rushes to by Chinese EV and other non-hydrocarbon tech such as solar panels etc.

 

[Bharatah]

Absolute disgrace for iran. Even if some of those wounded Americans are killed in process without shooting down another aircraft or capturing another American it will be a complete failure of iranians to respond

First, you have to verify if it's true, because there's a lot of fake news coming from the US/Israel. Just look at yesterday's news that said General Soleimani's daughters had been arrested in the US, and they say they're free and never lived there! Second, you have to see that it makes no difference whatsoever; exposing soldiers and equipment(iran) that could be killed(by americans) to avoid rescuing a wounded enemy soldier would be foolish.

NOTE: Iran's success, to say the least, came from investing in attrition warfare, not in a narrative of victory.

 

[BigMela2onin]

I see people have started dooming again because Iran didn't send 1 million soldiers into the desert without any air cover to find 1 guy. For some reason they think Trump wasn't going to invade if they couldn't find this one pilot?