Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
It’s 4:15 AM local time.

It’s been about 2 hours since the early news hit the wires. The operation is likely over one way or another as sunrise is approaching in 90 mins.

We will find out shortly what actually happened over night.
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What thos war shows . Sorry for the hijack. That little country Pakistan can sleep safely at night knowing it can destroy Israel and india in a blink of an eye .
Pakistan you lucky or you God blessed .
 
SolarWarden said:
Or it could be we actually care about our fighter pilots they are very valuable so much so that the USAF, USN, USArmy and Marines have dedicated special ops for rescuing pilots behind enemy lines.
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So basically one of the few times I actually agree with you and probably the last time I definitely believe the military cares for its own for the most part Israel would have killed that pilot without any hesitation……..other than that what happened to the Situ Lord shutting down all of Iran in 24 hours.

Forgot to add American military cares about it’s military not Trump or his yes men or his Defense of WAR can we go back to secretary of defense so much more dignified
 
Persian Gulf said:
if the US truly rescued this bastard, then Trump will certainly launch a very bold ground invasion. and by this evidence, Artesh and IRGC have zero preparedness or competence to counter such an invasion, and it will go extremely badly for Iran.
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Going into Week 6 of this war, I am yet to understand why we have been funding the Artesh for all these years.

The IRIAF was absolutely absent in both wars. The IRIN lost nearly all of its assets in a week. And I have seen nothing from the IRIGF and the IRIAA either.

And yes, if this is how we are going to perform on the ground, we will be cooked when a ground invasion starts.
 
BigMela2onin said:
So is that propaganda value worth the exchange of military resources to obtain? Men and equipment will certainly be lost to get it. Meanwhile, the drone and missile attacks continue and ships still aren't crossing Hormuz. I think the idea that Trump would have called off an invasion because of one pilot is not realistic.
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There isn't even a propaganda value for the US in it though. Their Media is abusing Trump and Hegseth since yesterday at how their claims of Iran's ADs being taken out has fallen flat. The rescue of pilots is not being taken as as achievement anywhere in the US but rather as a save from fiasco that was yesterday with 2 jets shot down and 2 helicopters hardly escaping with damages. If you look at it form their shoes, they have nothing to celebrate in this all, other than having a sigh of relief that at least the pilots dragged their way back after being shot down.

As for Iran, all I have seen is Western Media speculating at what kind of air defenses Iran has suddenly unleashed on them. There was a whole article on CNN today discussing possibilities on how Iran is suddenly destroying their air superiority. That is the worry of the enemy, on top of the pilots.

Regarding the attack, this would definitely be a deterrent, not an encouragement. The US has now seen how one incident turned into a full on fiasco that took more than a day of searches, a jet shot down, putting so many assets at risk and firefights just to get a pilot back.

From all that I have read, there is no way that whatever happened since yesterday is gonna encourage them.
 
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Falcon29 said:
Not even leader of North Korea is claiming such approval rating

This is narcassistic personality disorder + multi personality disorder

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How long before Trump demands everyone worship him as God?
 
ShapurII said:
Going into Week 6 of this war, I am yet to understand why we have been funding the Artesh for all these years.

The IRIAF was absolutely absent in both wars. The IRIN lost nearly all of its assets in a week. And I have seen nothing from the IRIGF and the IRIAA either.

And yes, if this is how we are going to perform on the ground, we will be cooked when a ground invasion starts.
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The IRGC is supposedly better trained and armed, no?
 
ShapurII said:
Going into Week 6 of this war, I am yet to understand why we have been funding the Artesh for all these years.

The IRIAF was absolutely absent in both wars. The IRIN lost nearly all of its assets in a week. And I have seen nothing from the IRIGF and the IRIAA either.

And yes, if this is how we are going to perform on the ground, we will be cooked when a ground invasion starts.
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Is it it me or are most of these reports mostly unconfirmed or here say for the most part no actual confirmation one way or the other as of yet
 
Shags101 said:
Is it it me or are most of these reports mostly unconfirmed or here say for the most part no actual confirmation one way or the other as of yet
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There were several videos of an American C-130 refueling two Black Hawk helicopters at low altitude deep inside our territory yesterday. They were deep inside our territory for hours.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
The IRGC is supposedly better trained and armed, no?
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well if Hezbollah is what we can measure the ability of training and use of asymmetric fighting etc than we can assume many top irgc and quds men are of equal or superior but definitely not knocking seals or delta forces
 
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