Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

what exactly do you call Tomahawk?

Yep your right too but not as many today by far

 

[Persian Gulf]

firing flares would be useful to illuminate the enemy's presence and MANPAD crews

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Also stealth fighters and bombers we’re far and few in between to be fair but yep your right

There were two operational squadrons of F-117s at the time.

 

[kobra]

agree. at least IRGC-N and IRGC-GF are firing SRBMs and drones every day

what on earth is the entire army doing? the navy and air force are giving us no information, and their commanders are invisible. Majid Mousavi is trying to make a new X account every day to threaten the Zionists, while these Artesh guys are nowhere to be found.

IMO, one HVT like a captured American pilot is more valuable than 1000 drone strikes in random buildings in Kuwait and Bahrain and Dubai. and even IRGC-ASF are failing to deter infrastructure strikes now, but I can't fault them for this, they are the only force doing anything and achieved some impressive blows against US bases in the region.

Cosmetic victory, moral boosting, good PR. Even If Iran captures him, will have to return it immediately, just like we did. Trump will be giving ultimatums on hourly basis and eventually when HVT gets released, he will brag that they "Iranians got scared by me and blah blah"

Drones on regular basis at hostiles entitles brings long term strategic gains. , fear among investors, less social and economical activities , less venues for minting money, etc etc

 

[mangekyo]

Is Trump in hell?

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Shags101]

There were two operational squadrons of F-117s at the time.

….i said not as many as today I looked it up 36 were used far more today in comparison to yesteryear

 

[Immortals]

can you tell me what you have seen the air force do in Iran in the last 2 weeks?

Bro it’s unfitting of a mod to be complaining this much.

The Air Force was destroyed the first week when the shock and awe campaign kicked off.

And I literally told you that would happen, but you wanted to sit and believe that F-5’s, and F4’s and handful of Soviet airframes could do the impossible and survive. I told you guys the AD systems wouldn’t hold up against the U.S. + Israel onslaught and I told you without credible interceptors those ADs would be picked off one by one. But you guys wanted to believe people like jauk and iran_eye

There was a video of a Yak-130 getting sniped from the sky by another U.S. fighter jet (likely an F-22 or F-35). Two SU-22’s tried to do a low flying pop up raid on PGCC and got hit and killed.

Now you are wondering why we didn’t grab some chinooks and MI helicopters magically from whatever airbase isn’t dust and dirt and fly them into an vector that likely has F-22’s or F-35’s patrolling for this search and rescue mission and send our own pilots to their certain death.

Just doesn’t make sense. It’s all emotional thinking.

 

[Persian Gulf]

@ShapurII

 

[ShapurII]

I think Iran will likely struggle handling a fast deployment action by the US where targets are not static.

But if your thinking from perspective of ground troops, you have to ask yourself what the purpose is. If for example they found where about of a high value person and wanted to kidnap them under suprise, unless his heavily fortified and protected Iran would likely struggle. But if its a land invasion to hold territory they have more time to organise properly and respond.

One thing if they think they can extract nuclear material in 24hrs they could do a daring operation, but I don't see that happening unless the location if nuke material and intel on state of the damage is accurate.

I don't think they can recover the HEU in 24 hours. It's some Mission Impossible type of operation. Iran couldn't recover it after 9 months, what makes you think they will be able to recover it in 24 hours in hostile territory?

We have already poured concrete on the sites where the HEU is thought to be buried.

On top of that, these sites are damaged nuclear enrichment centers. There is a high risk of radiation and corrosive gases down there.

My main concern is losing our islands in the Persian Gulf, and never taking them back.

 

[Aggregate]

---

---

Attack targets the U.S. Kharboul base in the Hasakah countryside - Syria.

 

[FUB]

 

[lightning f57]

Cosmetic victory, moral boosting, good PR. Even If Iran captures him, will have to return it immediately, just like we did. Trump will be giving ultimatums on hourly basis and eventually when HVT gets released, he will brag that they "Iranians got scared by me and blah blah"

His capture also could provided an opportunity to negotiate and stop the war. Trumpy is high on cocain or his cult worship so some reality checks may have helped create conditions for an off ramp and eventually agreement to stop war on mutual terms.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Bro it’s unfitting of a mod to be complaining this much.

The Air Force was destroyed the first week when the shock and awe campaign kicked off.

And I literally told you that would happen, but you wanted to sit and believe that F-5’s, and F4’s and handful of Soviet airframes could do the impossible and survive. I told you guys the AD systems wouldn’t hold up against the U.S. + Israel onslaught and I told you without interceptors those ADs would be picked off one by one.

There was a video of a Yak-130 getting sniped from the sky by another U.S. fighter jet (likely an F-22 or F-35). Two SU-22’s tried to do a low flying pop up raid on PGCC and got hit and killed.

Now you are wondering why we didn’t grab some chinooks and MI helicopters magically from whatever airbase isn’t dust and dirt and fly them into an vector that likely has F-22’s or F-35’s patrolling for this search and rescue mission and send our own pilots to their certain death.

Just doesn’t make sense. It’s all emotional thinking.

the largest helicopter fleet in the region was destroyed in a week? what happened to the Eagle 44 base? only IRGC SSM bases can protect their assets?

I am not asking the air force to conduct daring raids into enemy territory...

can you tell me what the air force has been doing the last 2 weeks? didn't they used to show Karrar drone with an AAM? they can't use even this now to target helicopters in an area they knew for 30+ hours would be a big focus?

it's legitimate to criticise and ask questions.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

No confirmation from mainstream media about finding/saving the second pilot.