Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[TallarnDesertRaider]

Is that all that you understood from my post? Seriously?

They were conducting CSAR ops deep inside our territory in two of our provinces where 99% of our oil comes from. Our troops didn't even get there after 24 hours.

Do you remember how you laughed when I said without an air force, you cannot even transport your troops where you need them? Now keep laughing.

I do agree with the overall premise but...maintaining an air force capable of massive troop movements to counter this kind of CSAR operation would just get shot out of the sky unless you had a huge amount of AD present covering like all of your territory, an air force that could contest peer adversaries and above. But if you have all that you'd never need to counter a CSAR op because the war would be fought far from your borders.

Overall, just leaving it in the hands of whatever local commanders/forces and not trying to mobilize to capture one guy is probably the right call.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Watch the video at bottom ......I was left speechless, this is new one not the old one , just watch

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Chinese firms provide images to Iran behind the scenes. Iran doesn’t leak those out of goodwill and OpSEC.

Ah I see...if the average joe needs pics...the US/West is the only game in town.

Nice to know.

 

[Immortals]

Iran should make a rapid response force specialized for this kind of thing

Iran has many forms of special forces, SWAT, and military police like forces.

Unfortunately, special forces need helicopters and protection to arrive at the site unharmed. This was a site deep in mountains where any forces would be vulnerable from the air to thermal imaging.

U.S. was likely picking off forces using drones, F-22s, and F-35’s any convoys or teams trying to get too close. We already seen video of at least 2 dead plain clothes militiamen or police officers who were likely killed by U.S. forces.

It doesn’t make sense to waste your most specialized spec ops soldiers on a suicide mission for 1 pilot that is propaganda value at most.

 

[Zoyou]

 

[SolarWarden]

Iran is claiming to have downed some type of aircraft during operation:

Looks like reporting of SF C-130 getting stuck and then destroying them was correct. I think we now know why it took so long to confirm from first report of a rescue operation taking place to confirmation... SF were stranded for a bit until choppers were used.

Btw kudos to the C-130 for showing once again it can pretty much land safely on any flat surfaces.

 

[Haz]

Damn can't believe they actually managed to save him after all this time, that's insane. Pretty disappointing, could've been a nice photo op moment.

Iran needs to flood the local ground forces with man pads, that was a missed opportunity. Next time hopefully.

 

[Falcon29]

Iran is claiming to have downed some type of aircraft during operation:

We're losing ton of aircraft while Israel hasn't lost anything more than some drones.

Incompetent Trump administration replaces experienced generals with Fox News hosts and this is the result

 

[Immortals]

Looks like their was wounded soldiers in this operation, but Trump claims there were none

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

That's embarrassing. Two C130's destroyed ?

Is Trump admin trying to pass this off as a victory ? How many more aircraft are we gonna lose ever since making Fox News host our Defense Secretary?

They had to blow up a stealth helicopter after grabbing Osama Bin Laden...think they felt bad about it.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Looks like reporting of SF C-130 getting stuck and then destroying them was correct. I think we now know why it took so long to confirm from first report of a rescue operation taking place to confirmation... SF were stranded for a bit until choppers were used.

Btw kudos to the C-130 for showing once again it can pretty much land safely on any flat surfaces.

Any valid source? 2x got destroyed or 1?

 

[Immortals]

 

[Optical216]

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Hopefully he sends the Marines so Iran can pick them off with FPV drones

 

[ShapurII]

I do agree with the overall premise but...maintaining an air force capable of massive troop movements to counter this kind of CSAR operation would just get shot out of the sky unless you had a huge amount of AD present covering like all of your territory, an air force that could contest peer adversaries and above. But if you have all that you'd never need to counter a CSAR op because the war would be fought far from your borders.

Overall, just leaving it in the hands of whatever local commanders/forces and not trying to mobilize to capture one guy is probably the right call.

There have been Iranians on this forum that insisted we didn't need an air force and shouldn't invest in one because we have missiles.
Now you can see the result of their theories.

 

[Immortals]

Earlier indications of U.S. aircraft losses in rescue op over 48 hours

• 1 C-130
• 3 MQ-9
• 1 A-10
• 2 Blackhawk damaged