Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

To give some hope of sanity victor gao, outright said days ago Israel will not be allowed to drop nukes or face similar back.

That's different from nuclear type destruction delivered conventionally, in my estimation

There is nothing conventional that Israel can do to Iran that Iran cannot reciprocate 100x more. Israel's only chance of survival against Iran is nuclear.

 

[Aryan_B]

This X account starting to lose credibility to me.

If anything, Iran can only blame itself and not others. Pakistan has actually refrained from attacking Iran despite the defence pact.

I hope such individuals are a minority within the Iranian community.

WTF is this shit

 

[Haz]

Right now, Israel is taking too much beating from Iran and Hiz and now Syrian groups are getting involved. US is trying to utilize all means to protect Israel. Remember, Israel has a news blackout.

Despite the censorship, Israel has not suffered nearly enough damage for them to resort to nukes. None of their critical infrastructure has been destroyed, Iran has mostly been firing those stupid cluster missiles whose bomblets do very little damage, and they've limited their attacks to like a dozen a day, not nearly enough to cause any serious pain so far.

And Hezb despite their fierce resistance, is not invading Israel proper and marching on Tel Aviv, Israel is invading their territory, not the other way around. The Syrian groups that lobbed a couple rockets towards Israel are small Iranian proxies with no real power or capabilities, they pose practically no threat to Israel at all, it's more online sabre rattling than anything else. None of the current reality is nearly threatening or damaging enough for Israel to feel the need to resort to nukes, that's just overtly inflating the situation as it currently is. I don't see them actually using them unless their existence is truly threatened, which is not remotely the case right now.

 

[Starlord]

I would say a big exaggeration but nothing in those cities or towns just boring as hell to be fair

It could be but I saw seen small group of "Christian" Protestors near USF with extreme offensive banners, very provocative towards Islam/Muslims. It was after a incident when some Muslim students were harassed by "Christians" at university campus, I have heard concerning talks about areas past Spring hill even from people who are born and raised in Florida.

 

[r3alist]

What do you expect from them ? Declare war on US ?.,... drink cold water and chill

Sir, he raises a valid point, the current theocracy will be seen as expending iran's treasure and people, Israel have predicted Iran will become a new ally and I expect Israel and Iran to form a new security architecture for the region with the secularists and anti theocracy Iranians to embrace this fully.

That's just merely to raise a potential outcome and direction for this.

 

[KingQamaR]

Says WHO??
It's PAKISTAN'S PROPERTY...
EVEN the Saudi's have DEFENCE PACT... NOT NUCLEAR PACT... PAKISTAN HAVE THE SAY WHEN TO USE THOSE WEAPONS NOT SAUDI'S OR ANYONE ELSE ....
AND PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE A GRUDGY EX.....

3rd world slum mentality

Lean from Nato what “Collective security “ means.

 

[Starlord]

No, 45 days can make 0 differences in Iran's case. I have already explained everything on that and I am not going to repeat myself. I will just refer you to those posts to see why it's not a good idea.

You do know that you opinion is just a opinion like mine? nothing is certain, nor you have some God given insight of the future, that 45 days of ceasefire could've hold, but no one is asking Iran to totally let their guard down, if US wants to invade or put ground troops they can do it with or without 45 days of Ceasefire, they just show you that when they rescue their pilot from the middle of Iran.

 

[Musings]

You want Pakistan to be wiped out for the sake of Iran ? You have lost your marbles.

Not at all. Start shining those nukes and the enemy are cowards - that will be more than enough for them
To back down

 

[SecularNationalist]

Pakistani nukes are for self preservation and specific to Indian threat.
we dont owe any other country our nuclear capability. nukes are for our survival.

And when it comes to survival they can be used on any country that threatens our existence not just India.

 

[CynicalPakistaniCritic]

that "deal" is total capitulation.

The deal is good only if Pakistan gets 10 billion + yearly. Anything less than that I'd agree.

 

[Aziqbal]

The deadline approaches. All is hitherto said and done that could possibly have been said and done. We have seen what has transpired over the last 45 odd days. Already, in our eyes, Iran has won its battle against the military-industrial behemoth of our age by standing and daring to take it on.

One final digging in of the heels is needed from the sons and daughters of that same great civilisation that Trump dares to deride so openly. He dares to assault an ancient and cultured people, a people that built and educated while others destroyed and ransacked.

Iran must endure. Not for Palestinian or Lebanese or Pakistani "interests", not for oil prices or cargo shipments, not for "international justice" or anything of the sort. It must endure for Iranians, just as those who went before ensured the same outcome. Trump, with all his hubris, can undo a civilisation as much as he can undo an earthquake.

Stand firm Iranians. We salute your steadfast resolve and wish victory for you.

200-300 shaheed 136 per day on GCC + all Western interests non stop

Yemen should close the Red Sea if they can

Hezbollah has already stopped Israelis from reaching Latani River

Russia and China should send resupply how they can stand and watch is beyond me

 

[SilentWatch]

Pakistani nukes are for self preservation and specific to Indian threat.
we dont owe any other country our nuclear capability. nukes are for our survival.

While I deeply agree with you bro as as a kid of the 90s... I think the Nuke shield we have for our survival in the Post-AI era... can be monetized in expending to KSA and Turkey.

how would Isreal/US calc change if we Pak army expeditionary corps 1st battalion takes guard in KSA? -> today its 200K men + Rocket Force -> tomorrow could be stragetic corps

Israel and US are now Parranoid IMHO in Iran getting a nuke for its survival vs Israel and US.

Neither Side has overwhelmingly won... war is politics by other means

Both sides will need to compromise on their start of war 10-15 points whatever it was...

Claude command -> /pdf-send-to-Establishment-newsletter

A muslim NATO /collective-defense sadly the only path to common defence against war damage. I say sadly cuz its a pipe dream

 

[ShapurII]

You do know that you opinion is just a opinion like mine? nothing is certain, nor you have some God given insight of the future, that 45 days of ceasefire could've hold, but no one is asking Iran to totally let their guard down, if US wants to invade or put ground troops they can do it with or without 45 days of Ceasefire, they just show you that when they rescue their pilot from the middle of Iran.

No, it's not. My opinion is not just an opinion like yours. It is based on facts, even though it is not certain. Yours is just wishful thinking based on irrational optimism and your patriotism towards Pakistan, not based on the reality on the ground.

So, no, our opinions are not even remotely of the same nature.

 

[F.O.X]

maybe Pakistan can promise a nuke to Iran after the war ends just below the table and let China now

No thank you.

 

[hasssanali8998]

shining

better anology would be start mating those nukes