Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[omegalamba7xl9]

Should've added
Arabs also have no value for Arab life...

 

[r3alist]

Unless we can develop and test a nuke uninterrupted, I don’t see how a ceasefire could be favorable to us.

Sir, what I think is being mooted is a cessation for some period to allow meaningful and conclusive talks to take place before things go into an apocalyptic spiral.

2 weeks two days five days, Pakistan can only suggest some time period that notionally satisfies the main parties.

If it does not succeed then fine, who here in Pakistan even from official sources is suggesting iran surrender




Apparently this is how Iranian friends are now seeing Pakistan.

 

[pakistaniandproud]

 

[hasssanali8998]

Arabs

arab kings .

 

[ShapurII]

Americans will always give impression that only they love their country, and no one else can or should. If you ask a American will you fight if someone invade US they will say yes we will fight and die, and kill everyone and anyone, but the moment you say that so the Iraqi's or others who were fighting your invasion are same as you, they will stutter so bad.
People should be kept from harm but i don't see any Iranian Army pointing guns at those women and children to push them infront of these Power plants and hold them hostage there, and since when they give a crap about Iranians ? first you send weapons to have a civil war, when that failed you killed 180 Iranian children, and constantly bombing civilian areas and now they gives a shit? like I said its cringy that they don't see the irony in their own statements.

Exactly. These people are forming human chains because they want to protect their infrastructure, because they love their country. Nobody is forcing them to go there.

Tell the "expats" in GCC or Israel to do the same. See how many of them will show up to save their infrastructure.

 

[koolio]

 

[r3alist]

US is strangling Chinas energy supply from stealing Venezuelan oil and now it’s attempt on Iranian oil . China will need oil supply if it ever decides to invade break away Taiwan. Don’t focus to much on trade deals this is the bigger geopolitical issue for China.

China is just seeing America reduce its global footprint in the middle East and is more than happy to play The long game, just like they have done in every other middle East episode of the last 10 years.

 

[Immortals]

Israel is running out of defenses! This is why they want a ceasefire! The interceptor for david’s sling was from January of this year! Why would you be spending your newest lots if you have older ones?!

 

[Blain2]

When Indians Attacked Pakistan in that skirmish we had recently and a third country had said stand down cos we dont want Pakistanis to die what would we have said? would we have stood down?

No, but both Pakistan and India were looking for off-ramp before things got really destructive. This is what Pakistan is advising both sides.

For some odd reason, the entire chagrin is at Pakistan very unfairly. I can guarantee, sometime down the road, Pakistan will be lamenting and reminding "See, we told you all".

 

[koolio]

 

[UKBengali]

The nerve is not in question, but the infrastructure of the country will not be kept up and running through nerve



Don't take this as endorsing the loss of leverage, I don't even understand why a temporary cessation to explore a satisfactory end would be a loss of leverage.....
everyone is losing their marbles, you can have a go at discussions, maybe two days maybe four days, and then get back to where you were if it does not work out.


It is obvious now anyway that this will need more than one round to come to a conclusive end, the main point here is you don't let things escalate into apocalyptic spirals

The hold on the choke points has been established by Iran, so they can do it again after a day or three.

There is no satisfactory end to this but the total end of Iranian sovereignty according to Zio-US.

Zio-US wants a ceasefire as Iran is hurting them badly.

Zionist pilots and planes are literally worn out and ABM interceptors are running very low.

Iran has to keep going till it causes catastrophic damage to Zionist infrastructure in Palestine and that’s the only way this war will end for good.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[baqai]

To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

If you see my previous posts i have said this that ceasefire would almost always result in Israel/USA breaking it we cannot trust them or the lunatic tweeting, as you mentioned we have our own interests, we are trying to mediate a situation which is win win for both the parties sue us if you think that's a bad thing to do

Unless we can develop and test a nuke uninterrupted, I don’t see how a ceasefire could be favorable to us.

i think you guys might be slightly late for that, should have done it way back when AQ Khan offered, but i guess no use crying over split milk now

 

[clutch]

Pakistan is stuck between a rock and a hard place: the vote abstention on the UAE proposed resolution on opening the Strait of Hormuz proves that.

Pakistan’s actions prove it is truly playing a neutral role in the region: it is neither pro/anti-Iran, or pro/anti-Saudi or pro/anti-US. That is the fact.

That is why it gains the respect of all stakeholders in the region to act as the mediator.

Pakistan is truly non-aligned in its approach, when it comes to Iran, Saudi Arabia or the US.

If Pakistan was acting at the behest of Saudi Arabia or the US, it would have been directly involved against Iran. It has made an active effort not to get involved, even though I am sure they must have been given huge financial incentives and possibly other reasons to join the conflict against Iran.

Hence, one can conclude that Pakistan’s non-aligned approach and asking for a ceasefire is truly neutral.

The only country Pakistan is perfectly aligned with China. Iran made a strategic blunder not aligning closer with China, and this is where Iran could have learned from Pakistan. Top Chinese military technology for Iran would have helped Iran significantly for this war, and they would not have incurred as many losses if they had access to the best Chinese technologies.

Pakistan has been playing a major role as mediator and facilitator for peace. It should get the recognition it deserves. It is walking a fine line between it's eternal neighborhood and other offshore neighbors between two it has long term interests.

I hope Iran and GCC recognize Pakistan's mature and responsible role. Both these groups have abused Pakistan and the citizens of Pakistan in favour of the backstabbing coward pro-zionist Hindutva India.

Remember this GCC and Iran... And never forget!

 

[RealNapster]

To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

Agreed. But Iran need breathing space. If it could attack with like 50+ missiles in each salvos on Israel, it would be doing so. But all we are seeing is 1-2 missiles in each salvos. This shows Iran is not in a position to put too much damage and resistance to Israel currently. More than Pakistan and the world, you need time. You need time to strengthen yourself. There is no doubt that they will be back. But they can either attack you in 3 hours or 14 days , what would you choose ?