ShapurII
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I also want to have 10 billion dollars in my bank account.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Starlord
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Do these people in white house realize that there is a chance that Iranians gives a shit about their country and came out of their own will? sometimes the irony in their statements makes you cringe so hard.
Oracle
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For this statement to be taken seriously, we must speak the other language behind the scenes too. Shehbaz Shareef is doing his job, FM should do his too.
at first you said (The Arabs collectively have failed to defeat israel) and when I showed you your ignorance now you say israel exist.
what are you even talking about?
ShapurII
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Iranians are the same people that ran over minefields during the Iraq-Iran war for the love of their country, in one of the world's largest classic wars since WWII.
We know how to defend every inch of our country. Nothing has changed.
kobra
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Arabs have zero value of arabs lives === Gaza masssacre
Arabs have zero value of arabs dignity === Trump calling MBS ass kisser
unconventional
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Pakistan is stuck between a rock and a hard place: the vote abstention on the UAE proposed resolution on opening the Strait of Hormuz proves that.
Pakistan’s actions prove it is truly playing a neutral role in the region: it is neither pro/anti-Iran, or pro/anti-Saudi or pro/anti-US. That is the fact.
That is why it gains the respect of all stakeholders in the region to act as the mediator.
Pakistan is truly non-aligned in its approach, when it comes to Iran, Saudi Arabia or the US.
If Pakistan was acting at the behest of Saudi Arabia or the US, it would have been directly involved against Iran. It has made an active effort not to get involved, even though I am sure they must have been given huge financial incentives and possibly other reasons to join the conflict against Iran.
Hence, one can conclude that Pakistan’s non-aligned approach and asking for a ceasefire is truly neutral.
The only country Pakistan is perfectly aligned with is China. Iran made a strategic blunder not aligning closer with China, and this is where Iran could have learned from Pakistan. Top Chinese military technology for Iran would have helped Iran significantly for this war, and they would not have incurred as many losses if they had access to the best Chinese technologies.
Pakistan’s actions prove it is truly playing a neutral role in the region: it is neither pro/anti-Iran, or pro/anti-Saudi or pro/anti-US. That is the fact.
That is why it gains the respect of all stakeholders in the region to act as the mediator.
Pakistan is truly non-aligned in its approach, when it comes to Iran, Saudi Arabia or the US.
If Pakistan was acting at the behest of Saudi Arabia or the US, it would have been directly involved against Iran. It has made an active effort not to get involved, even though I am sure they must have been given huge financial incentives and possibly other reasons to join the conflict against Iran.
Hence, one can conclude that Pakistan’s non-aligned approach and asking for a ceasefire is truly neutral.
The only country Pakistan is perfectly aligned with is China. Iran made a strategic blunder not aligning closer with China, and this is where Iran could have learned from Pakistan. Top Chinese military technology for Iran would have helped Iran significantly for this war, and they would not have incurred as many losses if they had access to the best Chinese technologies.
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Useless war to be honest , both countries were weakened in favor of gulf countries and israel .. I wished there was peace between sadaam and iran at those times.
r3alist
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The nerve is not in question, but the infrastructure of the country will not be kept up and running through nerve
Don't take this as endorsing the loss of leverage, I don't even understand why a temporary cessation to explore a satisfactory end would be a loss of leverage.....
everyone is losing their marbles, you can have a go at discussions, maybe two days maybe four days, and then get back to where you were if it does not work out.
It is obvious now anyway that this will need more than one round to come to a conclusive end, the main point here is you don't let things escalate into apocalyptic spirals
The hold on the choke points has been established by Iran, so they can do it again after a day or three.
sharreman10
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Infra is getting destroyed anyway, this is my argument.
Of course we dont but had those millions of Russians that died defending Russian cities in 2nd world war surrendered they may have lived but Russia wouldn't be free today.
ShapurII
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It was a stupid war, but we were forced to fight it nevertheless.
Iraq launched an unprovoked war on us and we had no choice but to fight it while our Army and security apparatus had been dismantled because of the revolution. It got bloody, but the Iranians never gave up.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Ending civilisation means more than IRGC defences
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