Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hydrabadi_arab]

Pakistan may end up doing some defensive operations. That is to fly inside Saudi airspace and shoot down projectiles flying towards Saudi infrastructure.

SA doesn't need Pakistan to intercept some drones/missiles.

This is heading towards ground invasion in all out war. Thats the only thing they need from Pakistan to clear out underground tunnels.

 

[r3alist]

Its not so much Pakistan but Sharif.

By holding the straits Iran is hurting American allies including Europeans who are complaining at American actions as economy suffering. The other day in UK I had to pay I think £300-£35 extra to fill up my car. .

People in garage cursing Trump and Jews and if they doing that in UK I am sure Americans are doing same.

earlier today Trump said at press conference words to the effect if it was me I would stay there but I know that's not popular and you dont want.

Opening straights would remove the pressure on Trump

But if Iran does not get a satisfactory conclusion then they can go back to controlling it.

I don't see how the Americans will remove iran's ability to do so in a week or two, correct me if I am wrong.

In that case, you go back to where you were

 

[Ali_Baba]

Both US and Iran considering the ceasefire proposal from Pakistan

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What is the difference between a 2 week ceasefire and a 45 day ceasefire ???

 

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[Shags101]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/5-explosions-heard-in-area-of-baghdad-where-us-embassy-is-located/

I honestly have this feeling Iran is about to play their trump cards and it’s not even their missiles they have 100 thousand plus loyal allies if not more including many in the Iraqi military if they see an existential threat to Iran than its a threat on them just as much Iran technically already has an army on foreign lands the largest is in Iraq and we can assume hundreds of men spread out all over the Middle East they showed they are willing to send men to other countries

 

[Corax]

Of course we dont but had those millions of Russians that died defending Russian cities in 2nd world war surrendered they may have lived but Russia wouldn't be free today.

That was a conflict between peer powers, and a war of annihilation, both sides wanting to destroy each other. That's not the case here, despite all the bs spouted by Trump.

 

[Blain2]

SA doesn't need Pakistan to intercept some drones/missiles.

This is heading towards ground invasion in all out war. Thats the only thing they need from Pakistan to clear out underground tunnels.

??

Pakistan's pact with KSA is a "defense" pact. Not one to carry out expeditionary wars for KSA.

Pakistan does what makes sense for Pakistan. Case in point, last Gulf War. Not a single Pakistani soldier went into Kuwait.

 

[UKBengali]

Do you think US/Israel will allow such a time to arrive where they dont have any interceptors left?
They will definately take some drastic steps before they run out of interceptors.

You cannot take “steps” when you have run out of hardware.

US is now having to use SM-3 to defend the Zionist entity and they have like only 12 per warship. THAAD is now “low”.

 

[unconventional]

Pakistan is not forcing Iran to accept the ceasefire. It is providing an option to resolve the current crisis. It is purely acting as an intermediary. It is not a direct party to the conflict. It can only try to get the key players to the table, the rest is up to them. Pakistan is trying to come up with the best possible settlement and win-win (or lose-lose, depending on how you perceive it), neutral solution for all parties involved.

 

[Shags101]

Understood, but even in the context of war you have moments of diplomacy where you sit down on the table.



People are acting like suddenly in two days all the equations will change.


It's a negotiation and sometimes you start at opposite ends with the first offer but hopefully a formulation is worked out


Remember that if Iran entertains diplomacy, it could put pressure on trump domestically.

Trump doesn’t feel any pressure at home even if the American public as a whole doesn’t wish this war he doesn’t care it’s about his ego at this point nothing more than that

 

[Sal12]

A one sided defense treaty in exchange for money and oil to keep the lights on? What do you call that?

Does anyone here really think that traitor and U.S. cuck MBS would ever support Pakistan if Israel and India attack it? Even Trump said MBS has to kiss my ass.

Iran would support Pakistan much more in such an event than Saudi Arabia.

Relying on MBS is relying on a snake who is in bed with Zionists and Americans. He would sell Pakistan in a heartbeat if it meant he keeps his throne.

Pak signed a defence treaty with Saudia but has Pak participated in this war against Iran. No, because it is not in interest of Pak.

 

[Falcon29]

Urgent...

A very violent explosion in Palestine Street in Baghdad, Iraq

What is this?!

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There is no package for Israel. Iran have shown all their cards and didn't even did 0.01% of damage what Israel have done to Iran. Because Iranian missile at that distance are not very accurate so cannot hit strategic assets of Israel.

Israel only fear nuclear bomb.

I fear you are right about that....

 

[ShapurII]

But if Iran does not get a satisfactory conclusion then they can go back to controlling it.

I don't see how the Americans will remove iran's ability to do so in a week or two, correct me if I am wrong.

In that case, you go back to where you were

What about replenishing the AD in the region? What about the US amphibious ships passing through the strait?

 

[Immortals]

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[Falcon29]

So here’s food for thought yes most Iraqis are on Irans side I honestly don’t care if they are Sunni or Shia they are supporting Iran but I’m starting to think these protestors could be a set up to bring in armed men from different militias perhaps even Iranian forces intermixed with them in attempt to show they can and will hit back with their own allies and forces.

I can see this happening in Bahrain definitely Iran may be waiting to activate all of these sleepers very soon

It is doing of Iranian allies in Iraq ofc