Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Aggregate]

And yes .. any news that saves tens of thousands of lives, infrastructure built over decades, is good.

At this point Iran can negotiate at a position of power. The other way will be an escalating war of attrition that will be of no use to anyone.

 

[Immortals]

Despite tall claims, Unfortunately IRGC is one trick pony and that is throwing missiles..We all waited for "running out of interceptors"

It appears you were simply too impatient to wait. You must think wars should move on a Tik Tok/Instagram expedited timeline to fit your wants.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[r3alist]

What about replenishing the AD in the region? What about the US amphibious ships passing through the strait?

I don't think they can replenish anything in two weeks, correct me if I am wrong.

Because it's not about moving supplies around, they can do this with or without a ceasefire. You can't make Air defense in two weeks can you? This is why I don't get the hysteria over relinquishing leverage, unless I am mistaken

2 weeks one week, whatever is agreeable.

It would potentially allow the Americans or Israeli to come up with some other strategy and that's a risk, and if that happens then we go back to the escalation spiral.

Also if you think about it, if Iran does negotiate then the expectation in the west will be this war ends, that could create favorable internal pressure in the West, for Iran
Invariably Israel will try and sabotage the peace talks in any case and trump will face pressure for allowing this to happen

 

[Oracle]

A deal or pause here means Iran will surrender. And big win for usa

 

[tsunset]

A deal or pause here means Iran will surrender. And big win for usa

You surrendered and closed your offices when you got missiled in the UAE

 

[Oracle]

You surrendered and closed your offices when you got missiled in the UAE

I am not that oracle

 

[ShapurII]

I don't think they can replenish anything in two weeks, correct me if I am wrong.

Because it's not about moving supplies around, they can do this with or without a ceasefire. You can't make Air defense in two weeks can you? This is why I don't get the hysteria over relinquishing leverage, unless I am mistaken

2 weeks one week, whatever is agreeable.

It would potentially allow the Americans or Israeli to come up with some other strategy and that's a risk, and if that happens then we go back to the escalation spiral.

Also if you think about it, if Iran does negotiate then the expectation in the west will be this war ends, that could create favorable internal pressure in the West, for Iran
Invariably Israel will try and sabotage the peace talks in any case and trump will face pressure for allowing this to happen

Nobody cares about favorable internal pressure in the West. We don't, they don't, Israel doesn't.

If Iran accepts a ceasefire, we have lost the war. It is a premature declaration of surrender. And I hope the Islamic Republic would be kicked fast and get replaced by whatever regime that will be subservient to the US.

 

[Blain2]

Defence doesn't mean just taking hits like a sitting duck. SA doesn't need Pakistan to intercept missiles. They also don't need us to bomb Iran from air.

There is only 1 thing they will ask from Pakistan. Why do you think we are desperate for peace deal?

Well Pakistan is not giving that to them. Pakistan refused in GW1, Pakistan refused in Yemen and Pakistan will refuse now if the ask is to send ground troops anywhere outside of KSA.

No doubts iA about that.

 

[Falcon29]

Qatari Interior Ministry:

4 moderate injuries, including a girl, due to shrapnel falling on a citizen's home in the Al-Muraykh area

Security authorities have begun dealing with an incident resulting from the interception by Qatari air defenses of Iranian missiles

 

[Persian Gulf]

American Patriot missile crashes into residential areas in Qatar; 4 people injured as initial toll

 

[Immortals]

I am not that oracle

You literally have their logo as your avatar

 

[Immortals]

 

[RocketLaw]

Pakistan - a mediating role





You have only one option through Pakistani channel, noone else help you to ease situations in Middle East even Russia, China and GCC.

 

[Blain2]

I say put the entire onus/blame on Pakistan's insistence and prodding if it gives the two sides an off-ramp. I sincerely hope the two sides take the off-ramp and not let the Zionist bastards derail it yet again.